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November 20, 2008

Rangel: Pelosi Played Role in Dingell's Defeat

@ 11:21 am by Hill Staff

Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) accused House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of having a role in Thursday's defeat of Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) by Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) for control of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

"I assume that not playing a role is playing a role," Rangel, Chairman of the House Committee on Ways and Means, told the Washington Post after the Democratic Caucus voted to oust Dingell.

"It's just been buried," Rangel said of the long-standing principle of seniority for Democratic leadership in the House. Rangel had backed Dingell's bid to retain his chairmanship.

The 137-122 vote displaces the veteran Michigan Democrat, who has been either chairman or ranking member of the committee overseeing energy and environmental legislation since 1981. Dingell's southeast Michigan district is largely dependent on the automotive industry, and Dingell has made a point of opposing potentially costly regulations for automakers over the years.

-Michael O'Brien

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This is another example of the fact that the incoming administration and Congress are too much about politics and not enough about pragmatism. We have huge, and worldwide, economic problems. We are about to have an administration that knows less about how to handle it than the last one. Our next President has never had a real job, and the Congress is so insulated from the problems of Main Street, they still believe the solution is to cut more "stimulus checks." Time to run for the hills.

Comment by John Brewster — November 20, 2008 @ 12:29 pm
I'm shocked - after Dingell has led us so effectively in our Energy and Environmental policies in America. I�m sure Waxman will be a much better leader. I just feel energy independence is right around the corner � after Waxman�s plan is put in place.

Comment by Jack — November 20, 2008 @ 12:35 pm
Charlie Rangel said, rather stupidly:
"I assume that not playing a role is playing a role"

Charlie…what the heck is wrong with you and what are you talking about? Don't you have enough to worry about with the $900,000.00(USD) in your freezer? Aren't you the head of the ways and means comittee (keepin' everyone honest)?

Please do the American people a favor…resign…right after you stop talking. Everytime you open your mouth, you look and sound even worse that the time before.

Comment by Todd — November 20, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
WHO the F cares. Enough games you fools, do your job or resign.

Must feel nice having a guaranteed paycheck, pension and health care, courtesy of the full faith and credit of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Figure it out Rangle, Pelosi, Reid at al. Lead, find solutions. Bury your political gamemenship crap, WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH.

Comment by KIMMIE69 — November 20, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
Sorry…I meant to say $90,0000.00 USD

Comment by Todd — November 20, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
This is bad news for the country. Waxman is an idiot who is all about grandstanding for the cameras. This man has said nothing of substance his entire career.

Comment by Steve — November 20, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
Let's face tie facts………with clowns like this running the country, we're all screwed! What happened to "Change"? All I see is the same folks, that caused the problems, now talking about fixing the problems. When will we ever learn?

Comment by Courteous Wolf — November 20, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
Anyone who believes energy independence is around the corner is dreaming. KEEP DREAMING!!

Comment by Elmer — November 20, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
hussein will CHANGE everything, I'm not worried (i'm fn pisssed, anxious, GOIN BROKE, and filled with fear for this country). A HALF TERM SENATOR WILL FIX IT ALL

Comment by chris — November 20, 2008 @ 12:44 pm
Steve - posted at 12:39 pm.

They are all idiots. Ane we are all idiots for electing them and the re-electing them.

Comment by Santiago Perez — November 20, 2008 @ 12:44 pm
I can't wait until the cost of the carbon credits starts showing up in everything sold in America. I am going to feel so patriotic!

Comment by Robert — November 20, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
Why be surprised? We want the leaders of the financial institutions and automakers who led their companies into the abyss to be fired, why not congressmen?

Comment by Logic46 — November 20, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
WoW - Now there is "Change We can Believe in"
Perhaps Tom Clancey can write a book about where all of this ends up. Maybe he already has.

Comment by SoWhat — November 20, 2008 @ 12:47 pm
Isn't Rangel the crook from NYC that has been living off the hard work of the taxpayers and living and working in rent controlled apartments?

Common we need to get rid of these guys, what good have they ever done?

Comment by They are all incompetent crooks — November 20, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
As a conservative, I think it is important to give these people the power, let them lead. The American citizens need a HUGE wake up call and we need these partisan liberal socialist at the helm. When the sink ships, conservatives and the American people will again build the submarine and salvage the wreckage from the bottom as we always have.

Comment by Jason — November 20, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
There infighting between all the special interests who do not represent there constituencies has begun.
I say tear each others hearts out and then the REPUBLICAN party can take you out in 2010!
Your AMERICAN AFRICAN and your AMERICAN MEXICAN caucuses that represent all that disunites us must be stamped out!
Can't be to soon for me!

Comment by steve jackson — November 20, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
Cut Rangel some slack. It was Jefferson that had the money in the freezer ($100,000). I don't agree with Charlie Rangel on most things political, but the man has served his country in war and in congress.

Comment by Gene — November 20, 2008 @ 12:49 pm
WOW, it does seem that the Dems are quite chippy not only with the other side but with each other and having two years worth of this kind of governing it seems this will not change, combine that with a new president that seems to be just a figurehead for the party we are in for a few dismal years.

Comment by Peter — November 20, 2008 @ 12:49 pm
All of these dems in public office are going to take us into the "New World Order" anyway. The value of the US dollar won't matter. We will have NEW money… Pretty scarry. So much for the USA. it will all start after the inigeration.
Hold on for the wild ride. See you in the food lines!

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 12:54 pm
I don't think it has fully set in how badly we have been duped. If Obama is smart, and I do think he is and if he is a leader which he seems to be, he will dump this crowd now and get some talent that knows how to fix things without regard to party. Politics now will kill us. Markets and the economy will recover when they are finally set free to fix themselves.

Comment by SoWhat — November 20, 2008 @ 12:54 pm
I think I meant Inauguration. Oops, my bad…

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
Change? You must be kidding. Those of you who don't vote on election day and those of you who vote because a candidate "makes you FEEL good" are killing this country.

What exactly is it going to take to wake this country up?

Comment by Lihansen — November 20, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
The reason for Dingells removal is so Pelosi can implement green requirements on the auto industry while not having a clue that it will bankrupt them. This country is doomed for the next four years. We have retards running the show.

Comment by pcnav — November 20, 2008 @ 1:01 pm
Years ago we nnicknamed Waxman the Beagle boy after the strong resemblence he exhibits to the disney bad boys. Again, today he demonstrated our accuracy. Just look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRVJtkxLNlI&feature=related

Comment by Jim — November 20, 2008 @ 1:01 pm
Stevo - One word for your comments - Ignaramus.

Comment by SoWhat — November 20, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
Opps, I meant Magnanamous.

Comment by SoWhat — November 20, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
Now that they are done their dirty work tearing up Republicans they are turning on themselves. I have no doubt that what Rangel said is true, that is, one crook pointing the finger at another. The House is a mess and we had better wise up and donate to GOPtrust.com and don't let them get 60 Senate seats.

Comment by Cris — November 20, 2008 @ 1:07 pm
Dingell has not that bad a job at the helm of energy and environmental regulation. America has one of the best records in the world in regards to environmental cleanliness; especially when you consider the amount of goods and profit it affords the entire world.

The problem is, the environmentalist wackos want such stringent regulations that businesses will go out of business. Dingell has kept a good balance.

Comment by roadie — November 20, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
"Cut Rangel some slack. It was Jefferson that had the money in the freezer ($100,000). I don't agree with Charlie Rangel on most things political, but the man has served his country in war and in congress."

Oh you mean the man who is charge of writing our tax laws that forgot to pay his taxes on property sales.

Comment by Independent One — November 20, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
Pelosi doesn't give a rats tail about the auto industry. All she wants to do is make sure the UAW health care and pensions are funded.

Obama-Reid-Pelosi to the big three are the axle of evil.

Comment by Independent One — November 20, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
lets see, first the Dems take misogyny to a new level with Hillary, now racism with Dingell. O sure, throw them a sop but when push comes to shove it's the ole white boys network.

And don't give me about Nancy, she's just a tool for the bosses.

Comment by swift boater — November 20, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
SoWhat is a wannabe Bill Oreilly…Get a new dictionary SoWhat? I think all my years in med school made me this way…

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
Regardless of who helped or aided the removal of Dingell, it is apparant that a drastic change has been needed in the auto industry. This industry cannot be constantly protected by representatives who owe allegiance or favor to them. The citizens and taxpayers are the most important issue here. We demand to have more accountability within this industry, not protectionism for them. When someone builds a product of equal value for less money, we have the right to purchase without repercusion. The auto industry has promoted large vehicles in a time that we need just the opposite. If they do not make vehicles that people want, then suffer the consequenses. It is not the taxpayers responsibility to support them for bad decisions. The writing has been on the wall for years and yet our auto industry has been turning their heads in denial. Time for change has finally come………

Comment by wilyum — November 20, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
Pelosi will prove to be one of the worst things that can happen to this country.

Comment by Independent One — November 20, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
This site does not believe in the 1st ammendment. My harmless posts were deleted. You must be a Lib…

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 1:23 pm
the only thing that rangel has served the country while in congress is a big $hit sandwich.

Comment by jd — November 20, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
Beware conservatives. This blog is only for Dems. Kinda like MSNBC( MSLSD,MSPMS etc…)

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
no worries steve. once the "fairness" doctrine goes into effect, you will be taken to the re-education camp where you will be neutered and lobotomized.

"Change, change, change…"

Comment by jd — November 20, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
The change agent Obama is installing the same Clinton people that Hilary would've. The Hill is still paralyzed. Our money is not on the gold standard and has been devalued a la the Weimar Republic. Our troops are being slaughtered and those who fight face charges. Rules of engagement prevent our navy from wiping the Somali pirates off the face of the earth. Al Queda is waiting patiently for us to exit Afghanistan (like Russia had to) and Iraq (like we did in Vietnam). Iran has one potential bomb. And Russia is at our door.

Comment by Uncle Sam — November 20, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
If Pelosi is behind it, your guaranteed to be ending up with a worse choice than before. She seems Hell bent on her own "change". Either way, she'll be part of the ultimate blunder that will make the democrats control very short lived !

Comment by Brett B — November 20, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
I do not care much for Rangel but I have to agree with him not voting for " PIGMAN", waxman, have you ever seen this showboat chair whatever it is he chairs, he's a joke!!!!! he's rude, in your face smarta–, he is so far to the left and it probably is true pelosi wanted him in and Dingell out, as far left as she is. This is bad, I pity the car industry now, or any big co. and I do not agree with any bailout for the auto co.'s, they should go bankrupt like any other co. and reorganize, and maybe get rid of the damm union's that ruined them to begin with. I also agree with Steve that this is a sad state we are in, and now a two year senator is going to run this country, and no one knows a thing about this man, he's hiring all the old clinton people, what does that tell you, he needs them because he knows nothing, they are the ones who will be running the country not obama. cant wait to see all the books coming out about him and what they write about his past, can't find much, what do we really know about his past??????????????? TRUTH PEOPLE!!

Comment by Sandra — November 20, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
Barney frank likes those earlier mentioned sandwiches. is that better?

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
Barney Frank had two guys names. How ironic…

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
Wow, so far we are getting a lot of change in DC.
Looks like so far we are going to get more money stolen out of our pockets very soon. We should repace everyone in DC with new people, no Lawyers allowed, and we vote on what benefits and wages they should get based on how well they keep government out of our lives.

Comment by Rand — November 20, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
How do these idiots keep getting elected?
I believe we need either term limits for the politicians, or an intelligence test for all voters. On second thought…. Maybe we need both term limits for the politicians, and an intelligence test for the voters.

Comment by Rank — November 20, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
Everyone relax. Obama will fix all our problems.

Comment by Dwight Bailey — November 20, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
You are probably right JD. They do not want people that can think for themselves to continue "thinking"…

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
the real change is not who is going to washington dc. the change is going to be the reporting and what you are going to hear about what is going on.

the liberals have already started trying to stifle free speech and alternative media outlets. the so-called "fairness" doctrine does nothing but help keep the American sheeple in the dark.

Comment by jd — November 20, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Looks like the sharkfest has begun.

Comment by R J — November 20, 2008 @ 1:32 pm
Obama will fix his own issues. The cahnge will be coming soon. It is just not waht the brainless droans that voted for him were expecting. Sorry, he won't help you fill your gass tank, or help with your mortgage. Idiots!!!

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 1:32 pm
Come on, guys!! Nancy Pelosi acting like a "leader"? She's just a puppet for the BIG GUYS in charge of the party.

Comment by Chukkal — November 20, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
All this proves is how badly mislead all you obama/democrat supporters where in this election cycle.

Ever wonder why they really sunk Hillary? Because this group of Bozos could not control her is why.

America's political chickens are coming home to roost - now shut up and swallow.

Comment by Karl in AZ — November 20, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
change for a dollar is still a dollar

Comment by drone — November 20, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
#45

I like your thoughts! We are all so interested in having the Big Three Union contracts renegotiated. I believe we need to have the wages, benefits, productivity standards, and work schedule of Congress renegotiated by We The Taxpayers!

Comment by Rank — November 20, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
Correction - were*

Comment by Karl in AZ — November 20, 2008 @ 1:35 pm
Sorry, I gotta go. I have to do a hip replacement on a democrat. I will be nice to him. I hope my staff marked the correct side. Just Kidding. I CAN be bipartisan…

Comment by Stevo — November 20, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
Barack HuSAME Obama

Comment by jd — November 20, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
Thats funny JD…

Comment by Bob — November 20, 2008 @ 1:43 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen,

When these Yahooos take control you need to have you finances in check. We're headed for major problems because the DFL has only two solutions to fix any problem… Print More Money or Write Stimulus Check

Comment by DAVE RAMSEY — November 20, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
"We are about to have an administration that knows less about how to handle it than the last one. Our next President has never had a real job, and the Congress is so insulated from the problems of Main Street, they still believe the solution is to cut more "stimulus checks." Time to run for the hills."

Well said John Brewster, I would only add that Obama and Biden don't have a single second of executive/chief executive experience …. combined! …. and they are now in charge of the executive branch of the the US government. Yes, time to run for the hills.

Comment by Larry Miller — November 20, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
No need to scrub Stevo, its a dem…

Comment by ChrisM — November 20, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
Ooooohhh awwwwwhhh Years of Med School makes someone really smart in politics. What a chode. (good think you have med-school background for that term)

Comment by ConnorMacManus — November 20, 2008 @ 1:45 pm
Well said larry. That is scary.

Comment by ChrisM — November 20, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
Rangal & Dingell deserve each other.

Comment by dave — November 20, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
lol. yeah, it just came out so organically.

Comment by jd — November 20, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
Pelosi only cares about Starkist and that is all!
Dingle's wife is on the GM board, so he protects the low gas mileage and the 100 year old engines. Don't forget GM crushed all those electric cars a few years ago, those electric motors will last 100 times longer than the reciprocal engine!
And GM knows it!

Comment by lyn — November 20, 2008 @ 1:47 pm
What a chode. (good think you have med-school background for that term)?

What is a chode? What does good think you have… mean? Not a problem Stevo. this guy can not spell either!

Comment by ChrisM — November 20, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
There is no more hope… The country is in coma until public's ignorance is cured

Comment by Lazar — November 20, 2008 @ 1:51 pm
lyn, that's not all Pelosi cares about.

Take the oil situation for example and trade out Botox for oil. If she had to pay outrageous prices for her weekly fill, you can bet we would have already taken action to secure a domestic supply.

But…since it's ONLY the american peons that suffer…no biggie.

she has forgotten that she serves us…not the other way around.

Comment by jd — November 20, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
Lazar is right. People need to wake up and really look at who they are voting for.

Comment by ChrisM — November 20, 2008 @ 1:54 pm
There are alot of videos on the internet of obama voters answering questions about Obamas background and agenda and they are clueless.

Comment by ChrisM — November 20, 2008 @ 1:57 pm
I did not say that I am a fan of Charlie Rangel. I referred to the fact that he was ducking Chinese bullets in Korea before you were born.

As for as the big cars,taxes, and perks - he has a lot of company in Congress on that score. Bottom line - this country needs term limits. Congressman for life was not the way the Founding Fathers meant for it to be.

Comment by Gene — November 20, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
JD, the problem is that we took a bite of that sandwich!

Comment by RM — November 20, 2008 @ 2:00 pm
that's true gene. Rangel's military career is very admirable. he went through some really, really hairy stuff in korea. reading about it will choke you up.

BUT…in congress i think he is wrong on just about everything.

Comment by jd — November 20, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
I thought Pig Man had enough to do. Now He has more power. I don't like Rangle at all and I think He's a crook, but Dingle should have keep this seat.

Pelosi is on Her way out and everyone knows it. Same as Reid.

If Hillary has a brain She will keep Her senate seat and run against Reid for the leader spot. Obama could give Hillay Sec. of state job and fire Her 1 month later. The Clinton would have Zero power and if I was Obama that's what i would do. P.S. Hillary knows this and will not give up her 'Lifetime' Senate seat.

Comment by Pig Man — November 20, 2008 @ 2:05 pm
todd…you are wrong it was jeffords from louisiana with the money in the freezer. rangel just cheats on taxes

Comment by judeb — November 20, 2008 @ 2:05 pm
Guys - quit complaining. The only way to do something about this is at the next election (2010). We have the opportunity to turn this ship around. If not then I must assume that most of you trust this cabal. If you don't turn out on election day (month?) then suck it up.

Comment by Anne — November 20, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
Wake up everyone - Nothing has changed and cheesy Waxman and Dingell and Rangel are what the idiots deserve that vote these Dems in.

Comment by robfromOhio1 — November 20, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
The remarks were of more interest than the story. Lihanssen said it best - when are the people who vote for someone becausethat person made them feel good going to wisen up. Dingell was a fairly reasonable individual who respresnted his contituents moreso than his party. Waxman is a perfect example of why bureucrats should not be elected to office. In two years, this country will see another historic change.

Comment by James Milner — November 20, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
Nobody EVER seems to bring out the facts that MI has practically been in a depression for years - mainly due to its top-to-bottom socialist Democratic elected leadership. One would think even the Dems in MI would figure out that they can't keep reelecting these clowns and expect anything other than increasingly disastrous economic conditions.

Comment by Marianne Duncan-Hanks — November 20, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
Yeah and this idiot dingleberry's wife is an executive at GM. I'm sure she has no influence whatsoever over him, not. Glad he's not in there but these lib nazi's will find another place for him. Probably put him in charge of something to do with the auto industry.

Comment by John — November 20, 2008 @ 2:34 pm
Both Waxman and Dingell are ideological zealots who bring only waste and destruction to US industry. It does not matter which is on top. Ultimately this is all about Pelosi being able to inflict the San Francisco agenda on America with Detroit as the first site to be wasted by her ideological regulations.

Comment by Student — November 20, 2008 @ 2:35 pm
So, Pelosi is poised to push the Auto Industry over a cliff…

Obama has clearly stated he'll bankrupt the Coal industry…

Rangel and Dodd have (thru FNMA) slaughtered the housing/financial/homebuilding markets for years to come– with impunity….

Are you working-family, pro-union Democrats now happy about your vote for "change we can believe in"?

Comment by Gift of the Maji — November 20, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
And it continues to amaze me how the public is so ignorant to re-elect the same old democrats. Oh Wait, I forgot, almost the entire media is demorcat - so the public only knows what they tell them - thank god for Fox news and talk radio - the only truth on the airwaves. And now the Dems will try again to bring back the Censorship (uh, Fairness) Doctrine

Comment by Rob — November 20, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
So now the policies that have ruled California and put California billions in debt… and begging for a bailout…will now be applied to the rest of the U.S.

Comment by rdhood — November 20, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
I'm a rare Genesee County, MI Republican. It's a first, I agree with Rangle! John Dingel is about the best thing Michigan has going for it.

Wake up Pelosi! The country and Michigan in particular doesn't need more California regulations!

Comment by Bill C — November 20, 2008 @ 2:52 pm
Seems like a smart decision. Th guy who chaired energy and environment has us into an energy nightmare, an auto nightmare and an environmental policy that is also a nightmare. Good Riddance.

Comment by JSANDIEGO — November 20, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
judeb,

It wasn't Jeffords from louisiana. Jim Jeffords is a U.S. Senator from Vermont.

You're talking about Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-LA) is representing Louisiana�s 2nd congressional district. He was the one with the $80,000 in the ice box.

If it matters He was re elected and is a Black Man. Kind of like O.J.

Comment by Pig Man — November 20, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
"THE OLD O.J."

Comment by Pig Man — November 20, 2008 @ 3:10 pm
Last night Penny Pritzker was floated as the "O" Sec. Of Commerce. MSNBC just said she has removed herself as that nominee due to her vast personal financial commitments. She is,in fact,a billionairess.
A person more skeptical than I might suggest she would never pass vetting. Search her out,start with Superior bank.

Comment by Jim Irish — November 20, 2008 @ 3:13 pm
So some affirmative action creep from some tenement craphole in new York is mad because some other pro union thug lost his job through an open democratic vote boo hoo. Michigan deserves what it gets. Elect more pro union democrats…you're whole state is a crap hole. Go Bucks

Comment by rangel sucks — November 20, 2008 @ 3:35 pm
awesome news. Waxman is an idiot who knows nothing about energy. those of us in the business are pretty stoked about an Obama administration. Nuclear is out… coal sucks, oil is on the down… that leaves Natural Gas… drill baby drill is right… not for oil, but clean Natural Gas.

Boom time in Texas - Again!!!

Comment by Hunter — November 20, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
It will be a grand experiment. The big 3 American auto makers won't be able to meet Waxman's standards, and must fail. A new international automaker will move into the void and the green revolution begins. Next will be a voluntary lights out and heat off America night, where we can snuggle together around candle light. Will that really be so bad? Doesn't that sound like a little fun?

Comment by Mike B — November 20, 2008 @ 3:41 pm
EASY MONEY !!!
$1000 dollars to ANYONE that can PROVE what HOSPITAL and DOCTOR delivered OBAMA…
EASY MONEY !!!

Comment by xinunus — November 20, 2008 @ 3:41 pm
This had to be done, so that the Democrats will be able to push thru 'Climate Change' legislation that will complete the decimation of the US economy!

So to all those that put complete power of the federal government into the hands of what is now the most liberal government on the earth, I say thanks!

Between the new 'card check' legislation that will lead to massive unionization, new 'climate change' legislation to fix the NON broken climate, and higher taxes that will drive massive amount of investment OUT of the US - the US is heading right back to where Carter left things, but worse!

But on the bright side, I'm investing almost all my money in Asians markets as a hedge against the catastrophe that will be the US economy - so I expect to be making a LOT of money in the next few years!

Comment by Matt Maschinot — November 20, 2008 @ 3:42 pm
On November 4 the american people should have cleaned house and gotten rid of ALL the members of the House & Senate. We need to start with a clean slate from both sides of the aisle.

Comment by dslater — November 20, 2008 @ 3:43 pm
GOOD!

This will give India and China even MORE of an advantage in manufacturing.

Americans lose MORE jobs.

Liberal working professionals will pay EVEN MORE TAXES……to pay for all the extra welfare and medicare for the unemployed.

GOOD. Enjoy your organic veggies you yuppies. You are going to pay a steep price.

Comment by Carl Bonroy — November 20, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
All Obama voters from now on while be referred to as an ODA member (Obama Drone Army)

Comment by Uncle Buck — November 20, 2008 @ 3:50 pm
We are headed for the biggest mess ever! When Reagan was elected it was truly Morning in America. When Obama takes office in January it will be Mourning in America. Thanks a lot all of you cretins who voted for Obama!

Comment by Craig Cannon — November 20, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
It has only been two weeks and change - and the Dems are already turning on each other.

Comment by bill h — November 20, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
IS THIS THE SAME CONGRESSMAN RANGEL THAT CLAIMS TO PROTECT THE POOR, EARNS OVER $1 MILLION……….AND LIVES IN 4 RENT CONTROLLED APARTMENTS (DESIGNED TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR THE POOR)??

HAS RANGEL PAID HIS BACK TAXES, YET??

Comment by JAMIE — November 20, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
We all know where the change we voted for will lead America. We do this to ourselves somewhat regularly. The upcoming leadership will spread the wealth around, regulate a lot, punish where they can, and confiscate for the common good. However, they can't create wealth and that, ultimately, will be the fertile ground from which the return of either the conservative movement or similar revolt. Seeds of the uprising will be fed by the indignity of cases like Prop 8, where the ability to ammend the various constitutions will be taken away from the people in favor of the entrenched legislative and judicial branches. This is the American history, legacy, and recurring future.

Comment by Mike B — November 20, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
Can we thank the stewardship of Dingellberry, er Dingus, er Dingell for the nearly $6/gal for gas this past year?

And is Pelosi finally going to do something besides pi$$ & whine about Bush and get around to fixing our high gas prices (now $1.87 here without her help, thanks) as she promised in 2006, back when gas was ~$2.37/gal, all if we elected her dems to congress.

We did, and she didn't.

Now I'm eagerly watiing for CHANGE!

Which probably means I'll be digging under the couch cushions looking for what little loose change I can find after Pelosi, Reid & Obama are done with our wallets.

Watch out boys & girls, she's lining up the team to Ram-it-home…Sheesh.

Todd in SATX
*Suffer fools lightly,
then bake at 350 for 1 hour*

Comment by Todd IN SATX — November 20, 2008 @ 4:07 pm
Waxman replacing Dingell because he wasn't moving "green" fast enough is part of the reason the Big 3 are where they are at. Unions strangled the auto industry and with shortsighted CEOs at the helm and Democrats in Congress pushing for "green" autos, regulations like fuel emissions standards that KILLED the american auto companies and made them unprofitable … this is where we are headed. I for one will not cry one drop for Union members or their a**hole syncophants in Congress.

Comment by Janet — November 20, 2008 @ 4:15 pm
Comment 102 is well stated. However, each of this country's trips into self therapy gets much more expensive and painful.

Comment by Jim Irish — November 20, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
PELOSI REID FRANK DODD WAXMAN WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE VOTERS UNBELIEVABLE IS ALL I SAY CONSERVATIVES BETTER WIN BIG IN 2010 OR WE WILL BE THE NEW OLD EUROPE

Comment by rick — November 20, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
Ha Ha. Some change, huh? Same old people in DC are now surrounding BHO and the Democrats are turning on each other. Boy, that's real change we can believe in

Perhaps the brave ones will rise up and throw off the fetters.

Comment by Ric — November 20, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
We can vote all of these idiots out!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Ric — November 20, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
Not that I found Mr. Dingell particularly effective, but I find it interesting and more than a little alarming that the Democratic leadership choose a man who represents the interests of communities that have virtually no heavy industry, manufacturing or significant agriculture, but largely consists of people employed in the professional services and entertainment industry now enjoys such prominence to investigate, as is his wont, the real creators of wealth. I suspect, that the heaviest tool the lawyer, turned legislator Waxman has ever welded is scissors at a ribbon cutting ceremony. I also suspect this is not a good thing for American business or our ability to compete in a an increasingly unilateral global economy.

Comment by RWordplay — November 20, 2008 @ 4:28 pm
With Waxman now in charge of the second most powerful committee in the House (that writes legislation), Pelosi of course is chortling. She was butting horns with Dingell from day one of the 110th Congress on global warming — so much so she had to set up a special committee to deal with it.

Rangel is right, she took a publicly neutral stance, and then did a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, to her followers. To outs a sitting Chairman, the Dean of the House (longest serving Member), one who has been on the committee since 1981, clearly loyal to the majority power, is unheard of. It wouldn't have happened without her complicity.

Now that Emanuel is in the White House, Dingell on the sidelines, paygo being abandoned, the Blue Dogs neutered, the move to the hard left couldn't be clearer. Unions, eco-crazies, socialized medicine folks, it's all coming down the pike. And Obama will be there to utter soothing words as the nation implodes.

Comment by Ted — November 20, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
Excellent! Waxman has a much more agressively progressive record, and he'll be much more likely than Dingell to pass the muscular environmental legislation we DESPERATELY need right now! Wake up, anti-environment conservatives - there's no business if there's no planet!

Comment by Jason Berlin — November 20, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
Blind and dumb leading the blind and dumb. US voters asked for it and boy are we going to get it…

Comment by Alice Brinkley — November 20, 2008 @ 4:53 pm
Ther is no 'global warming' problem with the environment — this was made up by Gore, a tree hugger. This planet belongs to Almighty God, and only He will destroy it when He deems it the right time. First time He did it was with water and flooding; next time will be by fire and brimstone. Any attempt to change God's plans is futile. This is His world, not the Environmentalists'.

Comment by Sue — November 20, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
There is no 'global warming' problem with the environment — this was made up by Gore, a tree hugger. This planet belongs to Almighty God, and only He will destroy it when He deems it the right time. First time He did it was with water and flooding; next time will be by fire and brimstone. Any attempt to change God's plans is futile. This is His world, not the Environmentalists'.

Comment by Sue — November 20, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN? HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

I can't wait to get my "Don't blame me I voted for McCain" bumper sticker!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Comment by Honest Abe — November 20, 2008 @ 5:01 pm
I'm cool with Waxman getting the post - that means not much of anything will truly get accomplished - which is ALWAYS in our best interests!

All Waxman lives for is holding hearings!

No doubt they will all now focus on the Bush years even though all the Bush-group will be gone, but no matter…the less congress does, the better off the rest of us regular folks are!

Comment by RealChange? — November 20, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
Jason (#111) - you are smoking great drugs dude. Have some for the rest of us? Show me one universal FACT that any part of the man-made global warming myth is actually true - just one is all I ask for… you are such a looser

Comment by RealChange? — November 20, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
You folks can't see too far ahead and don't remember any history. Dingell is a big part of the problem with the auto industry. For years he continually fought higher mileage requirements and reduced emissions. Low MPG is the main reason the big 3 are in trouble. They also had a history of planned obsolescence so you had to go back to the dealer to fix something quite often. I�ve driven Taurus�s for years but they never could make a front rotor that would last over 45,000. Good riddance to a prostitute of the auto industry.

Comment by Dick — November 20, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
To: Jason Berlin

My God! people like you scare the absolute bejezzers out of me!

Instead of looking into facts, you (the collective) just seem to 'need' causes, and attach yourself too them.

CO2 HAS BEEN SHOW TO HAVE LITTLE TO NO IMPACT ON
TEMPERATURES/CLIMATE!

Comment by Matt Maschinot — November 20, 2008 @ 5:09 pm
Change? You must be kidding. Those of you who don't vote on election day and those of you who vote because a candidate "makes you FEEL good" are killing this country.

What exactly is it going to take to wake this country up?

Comment by Lihansen � November 20, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53C2-b8BOLs

Bless there hearts…….

Comment by russ painter — November 20, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
Who is John Galt?

Comment by Eric Stratton — November 20, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
Jason - # 111, you are such a looser. Man-made global warming!!?? No such thing dude. Why have we been setting records all year all over the place for coldest this and coldest that in decades…

if your theory holds, that means as more CO2 goes into the air, it just keeps getting warmer;… seems the FACTS are not agreeing with your aruguments Jason…

oh that's right, a good liberal NEVER lets the facts get in the way

Comment by RealChange? — November 20, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
Rangle is the one pushing for the return of the draft. Now he has the chance to put it in play. Someone should ask him to repeat his request now that the DEMS have control he should be able to get his wish.

Comment by BEHONEST — November 20, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
Yep Global Warming……29 degrees here in Florida last night.

Comment by russ painter — November 20, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
Clearly it's time for a revolution

Time for a major tax revolt! Who can they come after if no one is paying!

Time to throw ALL of them out of Washington, including all the career workers behind the scenes!

Sounds like most state governments need to be tossed out too - certainly true here in Illinois!

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Comment by RealChange? — November 20, 2008 @ 5:20 pm
Well we can't demand Id to vote.I guess a test is out of the question also? If Mary has 3 apples and she gave 1 to Tom how many apples does Mary still have……. Hint…. This is not multiple choice.

Comment by russ painter — November 20, 2008 @ 5:21 pm
Who is the 'house negro' now, Charlie?

Comment by Kens — November 20, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
For those of you who need to know how the budget is passed go to http://www.meetuatthtop.com and go to the 60% majority the secong article down on the Page.

Comment by russ painter — November 20, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
Stevo's first post was his best. Forty-five going on 8.
Isn't Dingell also a pro-2nd Amendment guy? That would seem like another reason they'd want to take power away from him.

And all you sorrowful philosophers who lament, "Well, I guess we got the government we deserve." Please! I don't deserve this! Geez! Even before it starts it's full of the unethical reprobates from Clinton.

Watch how many attorneys become holdovers in Justice. BHO will fire all of them, and the press won't blink. Holder! Come on! Nobody deserves that!

Now that gas is cheap again I guess the fact that Pelosi virtually blocked offshore drilling with that travesty of an after-vacation bill doesn't bother anybody anymore. With a % of every car (to say nothing of the other thousands of products)made of plastic, we'd better have more oil for more plastic. Pelosi and her ecology-nazi contributors just might not have the good of the country at heart, ya think?

How badly must they screw up before they actually get voted out? Republican voters seem to kick out their own for infractions, large or small. Democrats seem not to care, so long as the party stays in power. Woe is us.

Comment by Claire — November 20, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Who cares……Neither one of these individuals has ever amounted to anything. Rangel is an oxygen thief and Dingus…………….

Comment by Harry in LA — November 20, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Hey, where the crap are all these people who voted for Big O and these Dem dumb butts? Have you noticed there's not much being said by them.? Here we are two weeks out and I guess people already are having second thoughts.

Let's hope that the Senate doesn't get any additional seats (MN and GA) where they are really working it to get that liberal Dem. guy in and that baboon AL Franken- talk about a joke! You talk about ramrodding legislation down our throat with absolutely no recourse…

Rangel should have to get his butt out just like Stevens did today, but no; he's safe because he's a lib, so everything's ok! That crooked Lautenberg should have had to give up his seat too, but hey; if your a Dem, it's all good and the nutcase leadership provides cover for these retards.

People, it's time to spend TIME contacting your elected officials and tell them how you feel about their shenanigans. Then, vote those sorry arses out off office next go round. You can also contact the Senate Majority Leader's Office and Speaker of the House office by going to the Congressional website. IF YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH, quit complaining on here and tell them exactly how you feel. If enough of us do this, they might get the point! They sure won't get it if all we do is sit here and complain.

Let's get busy and reclaim our country!!

Comment by lynnd — November 20, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
We are sooooo fu_ _-ed

Comment by Mark — November 20, 2008 @ 5:42 pm
Did you know that this vote was taken behind closed doors. That way nobody knows who voted yea or nay. Wouldn't it be nice if congress shows the same respect and confidentiality to union workers who they are threating to make the union voters names available for all to see.

Do as I say not as I do!!!

Comment by Millard Filmore — November 20, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
I agree with an earlier commenter, that term limits may be the only possible solution. I constantly joke that we would be better off with a congress composed of a random lottery - not sure it's such an effective joke now.

Anyone can compose a bill, but it needs to be submitted by a member of congress. I was thinking that using the power of the internet, maybe a bill could be written, and spread over the internet, and everyone could mail/fax their members of congress on a given date, demanding that they submit the bill!

Maybe, if a few million citizens demand that congress act, maybe there could be enough pressure to get something done.

Something must be done.

Comment by Matt Maschinot — November 20, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
Oh dear. Charlie Rangell dares to disagree with Nancy Pelosi. It gives me only fleeting hope. They disagreed over which of the two Democrats would be better as chairmen - a difference that might add up to about 1%. Please, all this back room intrigue is silly, ridiculous, and will do nothing to help our country. People, look around you - because it will all be very different or gone entirely by 2010 because the Dems are more worried about their d*$m party than the country.

Comment by Cynthia — November 20, 2008 @ 6:11 pm
I'm never going to pay taxes again, Pelosi has enough money. Make her spread the wealth around. BTW: Pelosi had Three Newcomers run against her, and those F@GG0TS voted her back in. Way to go –you'll never have gay marriage now, ever!

Comment by CRACKER — November 20, 2008 @ 6:20 pm
This is due to the hidden Democrat agenda. Whether good or bad for this country, the Democrats under Obama, Pelosi, Reid and gang are going to shove their agenda down our throats. They're going to start with this auto bailout and work their way towards toital dependence on the government. You want to read a guy who knows what he's talking about when it comes to this, go here: http://www.pjfusco.com/wordpress/archives/49

And then let's prepare to vote these idiots out of office in 2010.

Comment by Dan Manzi — November 20, 2008 @ 6:22 pm
In my opinion there's only one solution. STOP giving the "explective" traitors any more of our money, so they can slit our throats with it!

Comment by ralph — November 20, 2008 @ 6:24 pm
Waxman will ruin American business by tying it up in bogus environmental laws that are just the left paying homage to the god of nature.

It is no secret they believe then need to stop growth. They want growth to be a helicopter that just hovers. Better hope that helicopter has fuel they tend to fall like a stone without it like our stock market.
Global Warming is neither. http://www.junkscience.com

Please sign this petition and prevent the left from banning bottle water from our schools. Kids need a choice for a healthy beverage.

Here is a few more reasons Katrina…Andrew….Northridge Quake..San Fransico Quake…So Cal Fires…etc.. What product always shows up before FEMA? Bottle Water!

Comment by Blacksheep — November 20, 2008 @ 6:24 pm
Here is the petition on Bottle Water! Please sign

http://www.bottledwatermatters.com/petition.php

Comment by Blacksheep — November 20, 2008 @ 6:26 pm
Here is the Bottle Water petition please sign save American jobs first!

Comment by Blacksheep — November 20, 2008 @ 6:28 pm
Obviously the change from Dingel to Waxman is to ease the way for the passage of carbon credits — which will kill the us auto industry once and for all (unless there is defacto nationalization of it to protect the union jobs) not to mention the doubling your energy prices above market. Ironically, as the earth enters its latest cooling cycles, we'll be unable to heat our homes thanks to the energy wisdom. BTW Is anyone ready to march on Washington to protest the reintroduction of the "fairness doctrine"? If we tried, we could put a million on the streets.

Comment by madash — November 20, 2008 @ 6:37 pm
Our economy is a mess, our companies are in BIG TROUBLE, everyone seems to be in debt 'way over their heads'……………………and we have an incoming president-elect who promished "Chamge" and is surrounding himself with 'has beens' and we have Pelosi, Reid, Schumur, Barney "Fife" and Chris "Dud" all running around/appearing on television, like a bunch of idiots in a 'rat's maze'…………..LET'S FIRE THEM ALL AND START OVER!!! New faces and new blood in our leadership cannot be any worse than these clowns!!! Does it take the total collapse of America for someone to 'wake up' and lead???????
This group of clowns has been around way toooooooooooooooo long……………we need some fresh experience in leadership…………BRING IN THE GOVERNORS……………….AT LEAST THEY'VE LEAD THEIR RESPECTIVE STATES!!!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

Comment by GoldTmmys — November 20, 2008 @ 6:46 pm
Did anyone but I notice the RACES of the dems involved in this little dustup?
It's a continuation of the racial politics they have immersed themselves in, and now it's gonna splash on us all.

Comment by Jim in SE Texas — November 20, 2008 @ 7:09 pm
This is it. I guess we bail detroit out, force them to fit the bill for an energy initiative in the next 5 years. We get no government payout if Toyota does it without GM following suit. Pelosi and Reid have everything to gain if they keep the Big 3 in the game, playing the same poor business strategies, with the Democratics as business partners. This is pure incompetence and the college-washed American populace (who don't apparently know Anything about econonomics) have voted them back in.

Comment by Leif Eikevik — November 20, 2008 @ 7:11 pm
It is nothing short of insane that Rangel holds the power he does.

Comment by Randal — November 20, 2008 @ 7:14 pm
This is all about getting the socialists in places they can goose step to the Obamatron mantras! The amrkets are in a dive because of the fear of Obama and dem fiscal policies centered on tax hikes, imposition of regulations that hamper our competitiveness and protection of two unions, the UAW and AFL-CIO and by extension the SEIU which represents tha largest body of illegals employed in this country! The Obama election is already a disaster for America and the ego maniac hasn't even been sworn in!

Comment by WallyG — November 20, 2008 @ 7:15 pm
I going to love it when all those egos in the democrat party explode and melt down their whole charades game they been playing on their low common dominator voting block.

Comment by WIlly Brown — November 20, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
I hear those magic electric cars are stored in the same vault as the 100 mpg carburetor that the one armed men from Area 51 brought in. Nice to see the "revolution" devour its' young though. I hear on CSPAN that the BIG 2.5 guys admitted they gotta drop billions of the money into the UAW "retire at 38″ fund and that ONE HUNDRED BILLION may be needed before they are "done". Even 10.8 million Chris Doddering jumped in. Are you Obamoroms REALLY expecting a tax cut? Why, Hill +billy are jerking the Messiah's
strings so hard he's being dragged right off the floor. Enjoy!!! Chapter 11 for them, WORK IT OUT!!!!!!!!! Stay outa MY bleeping pockets.

Comment by Jack Sparrow Aye — November 20, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
Hmmm. After Obama, Reid, Pelosi and Waxman get done torpedoing the American auto industry, we'll all have to learn to ride horses again.

Not only will we get back to nature, but 300 million of us will generate enough horses**t to match the horses**t that Congress and the Democrats will be generating.

Comment by Proteus48084 — November 20, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
This travelling shuck and jive minstrel show can't survive two years before the "devoted" discover they been had - and they are the worst when they turn on ya. These are tough times and 57 odd million of us figured we needed more than a "beat up Nancy Reagan, half term tough guy." We ain't the ones looking for the morgtgage payment checks and free gas and more 25 dolla' gift cards courtesy of George blue collar Soros. And with ALL the unanswered questions (just don't ask any about Obamoron) Always Been Cu Cu News is sending crack investigative teams to stake out airports. Tune in tomorrow: Public works employee caught leaning on shovel!!! In the immortal words of Captain Kirk as he shoves the Klingon Admiral over the cliff: I HAVE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU!

Comment by Jack Sparrow Aye — November 20, 2008 @ 7:41 pm
I can understand Rangel's interest in the chairmanship of the energy committee… it takes a lot of heating oil to keep his three rent controlled apartments toasty warm!

Waxman is going to be a disaster of a chairman.

Comment by Tom in NY — November 20, 2008 @ 7:43 pm
Who is John Galt?

Comment by Bill — November 20, 2008 @ 7:51 pm
These libs are the worst thing that can happen to America. They turned our food into fuel. They think the earth is over heating. They want to tax us to death. They destroyed our schools. They kill babies, and hate the military. What exactly is a lib? Only animal on earth that destroys it's unborn child with a pair of scizzors through the brain, and they won't kill a convicted murderer of many! What exactly do these people represent anyway? God help us all…

Comment by Bob S. — November 20, 2008 @ 7:54 pm
The pigman is moving up in the world.

Comment by Clive — November 20, 2008 @ 8:04 pm
It's difficult to keep all the scandals straight but I think Rangle is the one not paying income taxes on his rental income from the Dominican Republic.

Comment by george — November 20, 2008 @ 8:13 pm
AHHH!!! I think the next couple of years is going to be a real experience!!!!!!!! Watching the vultures feed off of each other for an afternoon instead of contemplating how they can rip off the American public is a break I'll take. I am embarrassed by these fools and the ignorance of the American people who put them there…check this out and pack your coolers and pantries…this Country is in real trouble, cut & paste this link and be prepared to be ashamed.

http://ready2beat.com/current-news/political-news/wwwhowobamagotelectedcom-official-site-how-obama-got-elected

Comment by Carol V — November 20, 2008 @ 8:13 pm
Does this mean no impeachment hearings now? This congress is a joke. Once they spend all of our money, revolution is around the corner.

Comment by Dick — November 20, 2008 @ 8:15 pm
99.9% of politicians are walking advertisements for term limits. The polls following the last election confirm that the majority of people who voted for Obama had no idea what he stood for. I believe the same is true for those who keep re-electing congressmen/senators…if indeed the voter, and not the unions and ACORN, determine the outcome.

We have an incoming president/vp, a cabinet, and House and Senate composed of egomaniacs who all believe they are monarchs. Let them devour each other in their quest for power.

Hopefully, while the Democrats are digesting their prey, a few new Conservative faces will emerge, divorced from the Council on Foreign Relations, and we can then clean the D.C. swamp, restock it with moral, ethical representatives, cast away the CFR shadow government, and reclaim our country.

Comment by Kathleen — November 20, 2008 @ 8:44 pm
O.K. here is the PLAN
We need a dose of administrators and not politicians.GOD knows we've had enough of those,politicians that is.I say we let the governors auto-qualify for one six year term after their time of service in their respective states.We get rid of the lower legislative chamber and let governors apply their experience to the matters of the nation.We let the existing upper chamber( that is the senate, for you Obamatrons)in place and they, along with the governors will work in the matters of their states and nation.All oficials will be elected as we routinely do. Is this a good start after the incoming implosion?

Comment by juan with the plan — November 20, 2008 @ 8:55 pm
juan with a plan:
NO! It's a terrible idea, to do what you think you want a constitutional convention would be required, and what would come out of that would be the death of America. Maybe an 800 page document similar to the one the EU has. The USA needs none of that.

Comment by Jim in SE Texas — November 20, 2008 @ 9:05 pm
Jim
My bad,it shows how ignoramus,i mean magananamus I am.thanks bud. By no means I would want that to happen to US.I'm just a litle frustrated with the clowns, like everyone else is.

Comment by juan with the plan — November 20, 2008 @ 9:10 pm
I'm with you, Juan.
The best cure for these creeps and cretins that become professional politicians is voter-enforced term limits. But as long as they bring home the bacon, people say, 'well, my guy ain't so bad, but those others gotta go'. Trouble is, you can only vote for your rep or senator, not someone else's. So the voters need to return these folks to citizen-legislators every term or so. No more career politicians! They forget who put them there and why.
Peace, brother

Comment by Jim in SE Texas — November 20, 2008 @ 9:48 pm
Hey Madash,
I will be marching on Washington, I also would like to symbolically march on the media by not watching the Big 3, nbc, abc, cbs along with cnn msnbc and cnbc…turn them all off for good and may they rest in the blissful ignorance they have spread all over this once Great Nation…I guess 232 years was a good run but, when you self mutilate as our congress and senate have done with the lap dog press in full cover up of their incompetence…what do you expect. United We Stand Divided We Fall…I get it…do they???

Comment by Carol V — November 20, 2008 @ 10:14 pm
Just hope all the site pundits have considered Bible prophecy in their wide considerations. If so, you know where the world is headed and how the story ends. Time for all of us to make certain our spiritual house is built on rock and not straw.

Bill

Comment by Bill — November 21, 2008 @ 6:05 am
Bill,

You point out the most significant argument on this comment page…Thank You. The flesh certainly creeps in and makes one want to control the situation but, in reality there is only ONE in control…and the Book of Revelation is starting to fit into the world like a glove.

Thank You,
Carol V

Comment by Carol V — November 21, 2008 @ 10:28 am

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