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July 17, 2008

Voinovich Finds Gore's Energy Speech 'Ridiculous'

@ 3:57 pm by Walter Alarkon

You can consider Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) as definitely not enthused by former Vice President Al Gore's speech Thursday on U.S. energy policy.

Voinovich had an initial one-word response � "ridiculous" � to Gore's speech at Washington's Constitution Hall, in which the Democrat called for the United States to end its dependence on carbon-based fuels and begin using renewable energy to produce electricity within the next 10 years.

Voinovich elaborated that ruling out carbon-based fuels such as coal would be unreasonable because of the country's vast energy and economic needs. Instead, he said the country should take a multi-pronged approach that includes but doesn't rely solely on nuclear, wind and solar power.

"We could put windmills from the Atlantic to the Pacific and, yes, it will increase the amount of carbon-free energy production, but the fact of the matter is, it's not going to get the job done," Voinovich said. "What we need to do is to look at all of the various sources of energy… We'd be much more realistic to realize that it's going to take all of these things in order for us to meet our energy demands."

-J. Taylor Rushing

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Tags: Al Gore, George Voinovich

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Gore has finally snapped.

Comment by Larry T — July 17, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
It's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that man made global warming is a hoax, so it's fitting that Democrats get the biggest global warming liar of them all to give a speeech on energy.

Comment by Ron — July 17, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
Of course its ridiculous! Wonder how much Gore is planning to make on this phase of his ridiculous proposals. Does he indicate just how this will be done in 10 years besides saying it will cost loads of money, some/most of which will go to his interests. When is he going to debate the issues since so so many people do not believe in what he is pushing on us.

Comment by pattyke — July 17, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
If we could just capture and convert the BS and hot air that emanates from DC, we could be energy independent!! ;-<

Comment by Phantomll — July 17, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
According to Gore, we're suppose to have windmills
on top of our cars roofs.
Lead by example mr.gore, have about a dozen windmills set up around where you live, and then
let's see how much you like it.
in other news……… John McCain has a winner under his palms and that is drilling for oil.
McCain should make a promise to all Americans that if they elect him that he will promise cheap energy and plentiful energy, that all new oil wells put on line will go directly for US consumption and not to be sold on the open market. Also, he should demand that voters should
send him more republicans to the senate and congress so that dirlling could be a reality quickly and promptly.

Comment by Jim — July 17, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
al-gore is deranged. Think of it like this if it helps; al-gore is the same as Inspector Dreyfus in the Pink Panther movies. al-gore has gone mad from coming SO close to winning the Presidency and now he has declared war on America. He hopes to destroy the nation by his insane energy policies. He's laughing his ass off as people struggle to replace light bulbs with compact flourescents. LIGHT BULBS! Meanwhile, he flies around the world in private Lear jets.

al-gore needs to be institutionalized for his, and America's, safety.

Comment by T-Hawkk in Texas — July 17, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
Gore is right and if we don't take action very soon our entire economy will be at stake.

Comment by David — July 17, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
Thank you Al Gore for shedding light on the neccesity of alternative energy. Peak Oil, Global Warming, Terrorism, and our Economic Woes are all related to our addiction to fossil fuel.

Why so many GOP'ers are so threatened by a rational solution to these problems is really unfortunate.

The scientific evidence is overwhelming that Peak Oil and Global Warming are real problems. Let's all work together to solve this energy crisis!

Comment by Jon Vander Pol — July 17, 2008 @ 4:17 pm
Will good ol Owl Gore give up his 4 mansions, 8 SUVs and private jet.

One of his homes uses more energy the 234 average american homes.

Lets all be like OWL GORE!

Comment by Brent Amundson — July 17, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
Come on people. We are reaping the fruits of an oil based economy with Al Qaeda terrorists and $4/gal gasoline.
We send money for oil to the middle east. The Saudi govt gives hundreds of millions to Islamic charities and foundations which turn it over to the madrassas in Pakistan and to Al Qaeda.
This is a matter of national security!
We must find another energy source which is not based on Islamic Terrorists and Third World Despots!

FYI for the first time in history the Artic Ice pack will melt and you will be able to sail a boat over the North Pole! The CO2 isn't slowing this down any!

Comment by Morpheum — July 17, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
South Park really hit the nail on the head with their parody of Al Gore a few years ago…Man Bear Pig is coming, and Al Gore is getting really desparate for people to take him serial! If you haven't seen it, watch it, it's all you'll ever think of from then on when Al Gore does anything.

Comment by Sarah — July 17, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
how in the world will Big Al get around in his big private jet if we go off fossel fuels, or will he be the excepton to the rule!!!!

Comment by tumbleweed — July 17, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
Gore and his perpetual energy machines…

Wait a minute…doesn't his house use more energy than mine does in 5 years? I smell a rat…

Comment by Josh — July 17, 2008 @ 4:22 pm
Really Jon Vander Pol. Please, explain to me how global warming is a "real problem." Science seems to easily expose how stupid and irrational it all is, but I'm all ears…waiting to hear your incontrovertible, "overwhelming" evidence. You sound like an Al Gore commercial ("let's work together to solve this energy crisis…"). After reading that inspirational aphorism, I think I'm going to swallow my tongue after vomiting.

Comment by G.W. Denier — July 17, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
My name says it all. Algore would like us all to Ben Dover and let him blow his hot air up our smoke stacks. There is not a bigger moron on the face of this earth. The people on this site who say the scientific evidence is overwhelming concerning global warming are equally dumb and must just be happy being sheeple following the pied piper of morons algore around this issue.

Comment by Ben Dover — July 17, 2008 @ 4:24 pm
It doesn't sound so ridiculous to me. Lot's of money to be made by Americans for Americans.

Comment by James — July 17, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
And some folks are defending this fool?! Our only realistic hopes for the next few decades are hydrocarbons and nuclear. All the alternatives are nothing more than frosting on the energy cake.

Comment by Dai Alanye — July 17, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
Larry T, Gore and his hysterical eco-sycophants snapped a long time ago.

Comment by Cicero — July 17, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
Forward thinking algore. How many are still paying the $11 per month algore tax on your phone bill. Remember what that was for? Wiring all schools for the internet! al i invented the internet gore couldn't invision a wireless? Al isn't too good are that vision thing. And he's wrong about global warming too… but we'll still be paying a tax long after he's gone.

Comment by randy — July 17, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
Jon Vander Pol - "Why so many so threatened by a rational solution to these problems is really unfortunate?"

First, you must identify and explain a "rational system." On top of all this, the US population is expected to blossom by another 200 million folks by the yaer 2050. Any system which would be significangly green,is still waiting for development. In the meantime,what will be required is conservation, consideration of greatly reducing demand (reducing immigration), much additional conventionial energy (cleaner coal, nuke, natural gas - and unfortunately for another 10-20 yrs additional oil - and massive increase in the use of alternative energy. It will take all of these. The good news is that if we can all work together on all of these - perhaps 50 years from now - we can be where we want to be. 50 years is only a day away.

This current want to misrepresent to people that we can just turn on a dime (as Gore has suggested) and replace all of our current energy production with green and meet increasing demand for the same price of just building more coal plants is the kind of talk that will destroy the country. He doesn't have a clue.

Comment by forparity — July 17, 2008 @ 4:28 pm
We now have "THE ONE" (Obama) and "THE TOO" (Gore). Where do I baptized into this new religion, I need to get saved.

Comment by Neil — July 17, 2008 @ 4:28 pm
Back-up energy is required for an inconsistant supply. That means a dual (twice as expensive) system must be instantly able to run at full capacity when the wind stops. Even a few minutes off power will kill those on a piece of medical equipment.

Comment by whatnow — July 17, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
I wish someone would ask Gore what he did about energy the 8 years he was VP. Why is it so urgent now, but not while he and Bill had the White House???

Comment by Naturenut — July 17, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
Al Gore is the south end of a north bound horse. I wonder if he has any idea of how long it takes to change over the fleet of cars? It takes about nine years to turn over half the fleet and that would assume they could find a station to refuel.

Comment by Joel Brandes — July 17, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
Does no one ever read any science literature? It has been known since the 50's that oil is not a fossil fuel. It is created from calcium carbonate, ferrous oxide and water, under extreme pressure and temperature, in the bowels of the earth. We will run short of enough for our needs - but we will never run out entirely. It is a renewable resource in the same respect as geothermal energy. See:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3952
Drill now and drill everywhere!!!

Comment by Chuck — July 17, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
Mr. Gore is the darling of Hollywood, what else would you expect besides stupidity and someone expecting everyone else to pick up the check.

Comment by Uncle Rufus — July 17, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
Gore's ideas are ridiculous, because they are predicated on the likely scientifically erroneous idea that there is anthropogenic global warming that makes carbon based fuels ill advised. There is much experimental data, and more than a few theoretical concepts that suggest that there is no unusual global warming, and also, that the warming that has occurred (most of it prior to 1998) is natural. Primitive computer models, such as those of James E. Hansen of NASA, should not be trusted until they are vastly improved.

Comment by David Becker, Ph.D. — July 17, 2008 @ 4:32 pm
[...] Here.�It is refreshing that there exists a politician here and there who will tell it like it is. [...]

Pingback by Lunacy still unleashed. « Bear Diaries … with Stillman. — July 17, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
Meanwhile, while this gas bag is out giving speeches about what we all need to do…the electric meter at his house is running full speed.

Comment by Tom — July 17, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
Al Gore the snake oil salesman and I am from TN so I should know. He is absolute baffoon.

Comment by David — July 17, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
We will do more damage trying to be "green" Look at the TV's. There are millions of the old CRT TUBE tv's out there that will be rendered useless in 2009. So, everyone is running out and buying (on credit card - duh!) a new digital LCD TV. And all these old CRTs will go to the land fill with 7lbs of lead in each of them!!! SO, if OWL GORE gets his way - all the cars we have will be useless in 10 years, not to mention the impact on our economy because we have so much money wrapped up in the petrol powered cars. And all the unrecoverable parts will be in the dumps too. I love my gas guzzlers - I don't want a little tiny econobox - I want nmy Mustang and Jeep!

This is not about saving the planet - All of this is just AL GORES way at getting back at Bush for the 2000 elections. He never cared about the environment before the 2000 election. Gore is still jealous.

Comment by Bob — July 17, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
Here is a lesson for Mr. Gore in solar �power.� Sunshine is only available during the day, it only shines strongly near midday, it does not shine strongly in the winter at high latitudes nor at lower latitudes when it is cloudy. People want electricity day and night, winter and summer, rain or shine.

Comment by Tim Allen — July 17, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
When Al Gore reduces the emissions and carbon footprint of his own Tennessee home to zero by going off the grid and using only electric cars powered by natural gas (which I'll allow for) or compressed air or a hydrogen cell, I'll stop and listen to him as someone who sincerely believes what he's saying. As it is, he's not even buying what he's selling.

Comment by Tim — July 17, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
Mr Gore can't even get off fossil fuels in 10 years, but expects the entire country to. Typical.

Comment by Gav — July 17, 2008 @ 4:40 pm
We need to arrest BIG Al for terrorizing humanity with the SCAM of his.

Comment by Riteaidbob — July 17, 2008 @ 4:40 pm
Ask Ted Kennedy if its ok to put wind farms off of Cape Cod. Soory, He already said NO because he sails there. Hypocryt

Comment by bill — July 17, 2008 @ 4:41 pm
Yikes! Kinda'. . oh. . .'red-necky' in here, isn't it?!

Let's all just ignore the science, because, after all, we're going to live forever, anyway. Right?

Comment by Orphie — July 17, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
I think it is sad that the American people have to suffer at the hands of hypocritical politicians who say one thing and do another. For the amount of rhetoric coming out of the hill, change does not seem to be widespread. Does anyone know a senator or congressman who drives a hybrid or shares their flights with regular americans? Of course not. They drive their big cars, live in huge houses and get shuttled around in small commuter jets. Just remember that when it comes down the pipe, and Nancy Pelosi is up there in the pulpit orating about high gas prices and the middle to lower class Americans, that they are the roadblock to us drilling our own reserves and "ending dependency." What do they care anyway, their whole existence is afforded to them at the expense of the American people. Sad.

Comment by Jeff — July 17, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
The corrupt Republicans have all but destroyed and bankrupted our nation, and still the ignorant and uninformed condemn Al Gore. If Al Gore had been in the White House, which he won in 2000, our country would not be in this dire mess today. We have a clown in the White House and his disciples are commenting on this board, what a pity. Some of you deserve this cesspool of corruption, that is obvious by your comments.

Comment by Kudzu — July 17, 2008 @ 4:44 pm
Excuse me while I go turn on some more incandescent lights!!

Comment by Al — July 17, 2008 @ 4:45 pm
Big Al definitely puts the Hippo in Hypocrite…

Even if drilling will not affect the price of oil (it will however), it is suicidal for us to be sending $700 billion dollars a year to the pockets of despots that fund anti-American activities at worst and buy up all our hard assets at best.

If we produced the majority of our oil from domestic sources that would stop the largest transfer of wealth that the world has ever seen

What I want to know is why that is not included in the congressional debates? Pelosi and Reed should address that point but will not because they know that undermines their party position.

there's a reason that Bush has 3x the numerical approval rating that Pelosi and Reed have and this is a part of it.

It is a shame that the Democratic Party has become the party representing the financial interests of foreign governments that aren't all that friendly to the US: but that is clearly what their actions of late in the energy policy arena are doing, in effect.

Comment by Richard — July 17, 2008 @ 4:46 pm
Might be possible if we can build 200 new nuclear power plants in 10 years. There's no way wind/solar can replace fossil fuel power generation…unless you want millions of wind turbines all over the place and no food because we're using all the corn for fuel…

Comment by dlaws99 — July 17, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
I've got two words for everybody- acid rain…. do you remember that one? I used to be scared leaving elementary school when it was raining because i didn't know if i was going to be soaked in acid….. Without these causes environmentalists would have nothing to do and al gore would not be able to give speeches at college campuses for ridiculous fees…. The guy is the definition of a hypocrite.

Comment by justin — July 17, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
Right, all the NASA scientist are wrong and all you hacks who read a few articles on the internets know everything, including that global warming dont exist. I think its time we get serious about real solutions, and Gore's plan is an ambitious step in the right direction.

Comment by nick — July 17, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
gore is an absolute bore - a self serving dope who says utters and spews nothing but junk science.

Comment by tom richards — July 17, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Your right…global warming is true. Too bad you have it backwards. See, temps usually rise and then the CO2 levels rise.

Comment by Jeff — July 17, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
The best way to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere would be for Al Gore and all the other left wing wackos pushing climate change alarmism to DROP DEAD AND STOP BREATHING. There you go. Instant CO2 reduction.

Comment by ig — July 17, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
The sky is falling…the sky is falling!
Chicken Little (aka Al Gore)

Comment by Dave — July 17, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
Gore is not insane, he's a brilliant coniving businessman no different than the corporate big wigs he laments against in the oil industry. Since the end of his term in office he has amassed more than $100 million in personal fortune. The bulk of this has stemmed from his carbon trading company (scam) and his financial firm which provides start up capital to so called "green companies". The more aggressively we pursue "green" energies the wealthier he gets. It's a perfect cause; completely unprovable, very urgent sounding, riles up the activist community of enviromentalist who are willing to go to any lengths to have their way (see the Weathermen), if it cools down (already is) they'll be able to claim they're why it's cooled down, plus it brings out the elitist self important liberals who more or less own and control the media and our school systems so indoctrination into the beliefs is extremely easy. Really it has the structure of a great religious cult. Kudos Al, you'll bankrupt half of the civilized world leave 100's of millions impoverished, starve millions with your bio-fuel scam, and destroy the industrialized nations but damn you'll be rich. Good job, hope you enjoy hell con-man.

Comment by JB — July 17, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
I've got my cave all lined up..
That is where Al Gore and his policies will end us all up.
Living in caves.

Comment by tankfixer — July 17, 2008 @ 4:55 pm
Chuck, thanks for pointing out one of the little known facts in this debate.

Spacecraft passing by Saturn have observed that its largest sattelite, Titan, is awash in hydrocarbons…oceans of liquid methane.

I wonder how many dead dinosaurs and jungle vegetation created hydrocarbon oceans at the other end of the solar system?

Comment by Imperator — July 17, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Someone needs to check into Gore's investment portfolio.

He has invested in Oil futures (speculation). He has done it to drive up the price. Gore wants the price up to push his whacko agenda…follow the money!

Comment by 6CarGarage — July 17, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
To Morpheum:

Your comment about the artic ice pack made me laugh (as so much of this global warming nonsense does). The earth is 4.5 billion years old. Admiral Peary first set foot on North Pole in 1909. Think about it.

Comment by Diana — July 17, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
Hey, wait a minute. Isn't this the same person who invented the internet!!?

Comment by John D Gray — July 17, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
Here's the answer. DO BOTH!

Why is that so hard?

It's not an either - or thing.

Drill more & keep our $$ and jobs here. AND work on renewables. It'll be 20+yrs for renewables anyway.

Comment by ster — July 17, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
Hey "Kudzu"…Al Gore did NOT win in 2000. Not by ANY objective analysis. The popular vote is irrevalent. You win the electorial college, per the Constitution. Katherine Harris was obeying Florida law. Activist leftist judges in Florida tried to hand it to him. Get you head out of your ass. I can just as easily say that if he WERE president, we probably wouldn't have a country today. Where I live, kudzu is an invasive week we try to eradicate….

Comment by dlaws99 — July 17, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
Al Gore will be even more celebrated in the future when he beomes the world's first trillionaire as a result of his scam carbon trading companies,etc.

Comment by Wombatbreath — July 17, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
I guess I have a naive but maybe practical question. So where will my electricity come from when the wind inst blowing? Are we talking about some really BIG batteries here? I mean what it's calm for like 3 or 4 days in a row? Do we get "Al" to stand on the plains and speak in an easterly direction? There is no panacea, we really should be pulling out all of the stops and let the market judge which directions to follow.

Comment by TW — July 17, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
At least Gore is trying to send a message. What have the republicans done? Nada! "Drill more." Wow, what a great idea. That will last 10-20 years then we are back in the same position. Lets do something instead of bringing down the people with ideas and going back to "same old, same old as usual". you know who is ridiculous? Republican thinking is what got us in this mess we are in now. And its not just oil that�s causing global warming. We need tougher standards on factories that are spewing pollution. Coal? yeah that�s something I want leaking into the air so I can get electricity and lung cancer. IDIOTS!

Comment by Brendan — July 17, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
I always wondered where the 9% that still support Bush actually were.

I believe I've found them here.

HARD. CORE. DELUSIONALS.

You idiots may hate the messenger, but if you don't get the message, it's your graves that will be filled prematurely.

Comment by SpammerX — July 17, 2008 @ 5:06 pm
Everyone knows that Al is a whacko. The question is will Obama move down the road to energy oblvion betting the future of the country on technology that does not exist in a stubborn refusal to get the oil that we know is there? Has Barack sucked on the kool aid that will ruin our country while we wait for solar panels and wind energy to run the country?
Ever notice how the Dem's only talk in glowing generalities but don't have a real plan? Market for energy? They don't need no stinkin market.
Ten dollar oil and heating costs that are unimaginable are ahead. The rest of the world does not seem so bent on economic suicide as is the Democratic Party.

Comment by Peaches — July 17, 2008 @ 5:07 pm
"It's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that man made global warming is a hoax"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Now THAT is ridiculous! Get a clue, dolt. You and your fellow climate-change-deniers are ruining the world for everyone. What is it that prevents people from understanding that it's time to change the way we consume?

Comment by JVA — July 17, 2008 @ 5:08 pm
How can anyone give credibility to James E Hanson from NASA ? In the 1970's he published articles saying we were going into an ice age!

Comment by gap — July 17, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
I intend to harnass the acid rain for use in my coconut shell batteries, which will power my yacht! Do not condemn me, for I am Hal Bore, a leader among men and a real conservationist. So what if my home uses a bit more energy than most? I AM HAL BORE and I deserve a little respect!

Comment by Hal Bore — July 17, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
Wow, David Becker, Ph.D, clearly you've read a couple articles on this and passed off other people's ideas as your own. Very impressive. Your silly doctorate clearly qualifies you to discuss REAL science. Go sit in a corner and ask "why". No one is impressed with your terrible academic decision.

Comment by JVA — July 17, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
I wonder why the people who disagree with Al Gore are so vitriolic. It isn't obvious whether what he's saying is right or wrong… but people confidently and crudely say things like "… this fool…".

With some actual knowledge of the oil and gas industry, it is predictable that offshore drilling and production is unlikely to have a major impact on oil prices or supplies. And it is certain that it won't have any effect for close to 10 years. It still may be a good thing to do along with other measures to get off oil in the long run, if the effect of oil spills can be kept to an acceptable level. In the long run there is no alternative to getting off oil. How long is that? Probably by 25 years from now we will have no choice but to make most of our fuel from something other than oil…. there just isn't enough of the stuff.

It is interesting how people can be so sure of themselves… and so amazingly insulting and disrespectful of others' opinions, even when there's a lot of validity to those opinions. Obviously anyone who can only put down the person who is saying something they disagree with really isn't interested in the merits of the arguements. In the end… there's only one reality, and being rude and offensive to deny it might make you feel better for a few seconds, just like a kid on the playground hitting another kid… and then paying the price.

Comment by Jake — July 17, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
How about investing in infrastructure. 45% of the gas you use is to get up to speed. Seems to me America likes sitting in traffic lights and inefficent road design. Been to Socal latley, what a joke.
If you want change as Obamma suggests vote out the criminals that are running Congress. Get rid of cafe standards and do away with the NHTSA, another waste of money.
55 mph my ass. I want a American Autobahn.

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
The fact that WIND, SOLAR, and HYDRO are not continuous reliable sources of energy which will fluctuate. The sun does not shine 365 days a year everywhere, the wind does not blow at a continuous velocity everywhere, and rivers do not always flow at the same rate. The electrical grid must have a continuous and reliable supply of power to to match the electrical n distribution load. The demands of industry, and households that allows us to turn o a light or run a refrigerator, or charge electric cars 24 hours a day cannot be depended upon since the energy from solar, wind and hydro is not storable. Sources that can be controlled are Nuclear, natural gas, coal and oil. Our economy will not run as we know it without these sources of controllable energy as part of any plan. The former sources (wind, solar, hydro)can only be used when the demand load is there to match the demand supplemented by fossil or nuclear fuels

Comment by Deuce — July 17, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
George W. Bush is my hero…Al Gore should be taken out back and shot for all this nonsense he pedals. I am eternally greatful for our Supreme Court and our beloved Antonin Scalia for saving us from this man that received the most votes in 2000. I pray every night, every night that W. declares marshall law and ends this current election and makes himself, PRESIDENT FOR LIFE.

Comment by John Dixon — July 17, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
I agree, Owl-Gore is deranged! He should get himself a job outside a tobacco shop as the welcoming wooden indian, after all he is so wooden! Then he would be more concerned about terminites that the hoax called global warming.

Please tell us Mr. Gore, if man-made global warming is such a problem, why does your house consume 20 - 22 times the amount of energy an average home in your area consumes?

Hypocrit, moron and scare-monger!

Comment by Alice — July 17, 2008 @ 5:21 pm
JVA: You are one of those Global Warming lemmings who are ruining our economy and helping to push this country farther and farther into a Socialist State. Why don't you do some research? What evidence do you have that man's CO2 production (3% of all CO2 output to the atmosphere in nature) is causing any so-called Global Warming? In fact, the Earth is now cooling. The Pole's ice caps are in no danger of melting. Even if they did one day, why would this be bad? It has happened in the past. The Earth's climate is not within man's control. It is people like YOU who are ruining the world.

Comment by GOB — July 17, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
A good half of americans still take seriously about Al. That tells you about state of the America. Don't you leftist have any common sense? or you all brain dead or on drugs? You really think windmills/solar power can resovle ever increasing energy demand. You smacks should all move to Africa or carves in high mountains near Pakistan.

Comment by karl max — July 17, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
Good to see Voinovich still hitting the crack pipe. And nothing is sweeter than than listening to the sounds of right wing trash blow a gasket.

Comment by Brian D — July 17, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
See, with Dems it's ALL about punishing the U.S. Meanwhile, China, India and Brazil are both consuming and growing like crazy…and then these same dumkopfs can't seem to understand why jobs are going overseas. The level of red tape and regulation that exists in the U.S. is ridiculous. WAKE UP PEOPLE! It's all about control! Control of what you do, where you go, how much you consume… Do you really think national health care is the panacea that they are selling?? How soon, before that same entity can then dictate how much you weigh, what you can eat, etc. ?
I say we get the self-anointed, self-appointed know-it-all, Al Gore, in a nationally televised debate with degreed climatologists, meteorologists, who take an opposing view. They would eat his lunch, and send him off like the know-nothing socialist that he has always been.
Drill, drill, drill! Turn off the Middle East spigot as soon as we can! Immediately cease all foreign aid to those countries who through their deeds act contrary to our national interests. Let them eat sand…

Comment by Freddiemyman — July 17, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
Hey JIM IN VEGAS - put down your 9am martini and dice and go to bed. You're having one of your apoplectic tantrums again…

Comment by Ed Burns — July 17, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
Windmills….Ok…where do the materials and energy to make them come from. Gore is a pure loonie.

Comment by ron — July 17, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
Algor is a conman who's enriched himself at the expense of loons and fools. P.T Barnum said it all.

Comment by john — July 17, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
George W. Bush save us again from this man!

Comment by John Dixon — July 17, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Al Gore is a loon and all who follow him are loons as well. 10 years from now, we will see the folly of his ways…and hopefully be laughing at the hysteria of a few sheep. Check out sun activity, temps in the 30's and 70's, and ocean temps from the new gadgets they put out to gather readings. Global warming is normal and so is cooling. The ice at the pole may melt due to the volcanos, but it will freeze again and life will go on. Also, CO2 is great for plants, plants are great for animals, and animals and plants are great for humans. Read, study, and learn people…you are being feed a scam and unfounded theories as fact. You are Americans…act like it.

Comment by Phocus — July 17, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
Unlike his former boss, Mr. Gore obviously chose to inhale. And is apparently still doing so.

Comment by BRIAN — July 17, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
What a bunch of Luddite Naysayers. At some point in time you'll realize that the next economy is renewable based. Until then, you should keep your heads in the ground. At least it will get it out of your butts, but the view is about the same.

Comment by Hunter Gatherer — July 17, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
All you Peak Oil people: Haven't you read Julian Simon's "The Ultimate Resource"? When you do, you'll stop freaking out about Peak Oil. Linear predictions of anything (bad or good) are never right, because people don't behave linearly. We don't need to freak out about what could happen in 50 years, because technologically, what's going to happen in the next 20 years will eclipse what's happened in the last 200 years. Get it? People are the "Ultimate Resource". Reactionary scare tactics only blow existing resources on solutions are short sighted. By killing our economy to force a move to renewable energy (which is already happening anyway) before the technology is there, we'll cripple ourselves. Technology is changing exponentially, and in 20 years, we'll be running on solar no problem.

Comment by Neil — July 17, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
Why so vitriolic? Because Gore is the biggest fraud in the history of the world. Right now he is causing people at the low end of society, in Africa for instance to starve. It will be people in our own country starving if we impliment his program fully. Meanwhile he makes millions and struts around like a rock star.

Comment by Ian — July 17, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
Jeb 2012!

Comment by John Dixon — July 17, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
For eight years ALGORE was the Vice-preesident along with the environmentally friendly Bill Clnton. At the end of their term, Clinton was known for "dropping" his pants and ALGORE was best recognized for accepting money from the Peoples Republic of China and making a series of ridiculous statements about himself as he lived in a fatansy world.. Their eight year term was totally devoid of any "environment" related issues. Actions speak much louder than words. Gore is nuts, admit it, he is actually NUTS !!!

Comment by Loomis — July 17, 2008 @ 5:32 pm
We can wring our hands about CO2 and melting ice all day, but the USA requires Fossil Fuel to produce goods. Wind and solar are "feel good" bandaids to the problem. Do any of you have the $50,000 it is required to put up solar panels for your home? Where is the electric car? Where is the hydrogen car?

Until there is a viable solution to our energy needs, I say DRILL, BABY, DRILL!

Comment by Al Suxs — July 17, 2008 @ 5:33 pm
I've got an idea:

Let's use giant rubberbands and slingshots to propel our airplans across the atlantic! We could even retrofit our cars with rubberbands and change the speed limit to 1 MPH. Wait a second, is rubber good for the env?

Ok..let's all take turns breathing. If you were born on an odd day, you get to breath on M,W,F. Even days get T,R and Sa. No one gets to breath on Su. Of course, politicians like Gore will insist that their work is very important and thus breath whenever it suits them. Retarded ehh?

LET'S SEND GORE TO MARS TO DO RESEARCH ON CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!! I'll be the glaciers stop melting.

Gore was a loser THEN, NOW, and dare I say, TOMORROW.

Comment by John (Tampa, FL) — July 17, 2008 @ 5:33 pm
So eliminate CO2 (which has nothing to do with warming or cooling) and kill all the plants which consume CO2 and the primary source of oxygen will be killed then all the oxygen dependent life will cease and the weather will do what the weather always does….change.

Comment by rvcrabb — July 17, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Gore is utterly psychotic and narcissistic. The Nobel folks were fools. Weasels like Gore/Pelosi/Obama will do anything to shove socialism down our throats.

Comment by MarkJ — July 17, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
What big Al needs to do is to propose legislation which will revoke the first law of thermodynamics. This could easily pass as only about 9% of the legislators, accoridng to opinion polls, are sentient beings.

Comment by Earle Ralph — July 17, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
Im not smart enough to know if global warming is real or not (most of you aren;t either)- but why do we want to keep sending money to these crazy Arabs in the Middle East?

Thats the real issue. Wake up people.

Comment by BDiddy — July 17, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
Voinovich Finds Gore's Energy Speech 'Ridiculous'

I would not expect anything different out of the mouth of the guy that invented the internet. His comments are always self serving, he has used this Global Warming hoax to his financial gain and that is all Al Gore really cares about.

He is as stupid as his wife was when she was trying to censure "Rock & Roll" lyrics. He comes from a genetic tree that is laced with scandal an has been able to keep it under wraps, sort of like Ted Kennedy and the death of Marie Jo. Power to control, with an adoring but stupid media giving this guy pedestal to preach from.

Comment by Smokey Word — July 17, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
The movie—An inconvenient truth—is based on the premise that when carbon dioxide levels rise, the temps rise.

THAT—is NOT TRUE!

It has been proven that when temperatures rise, carbon dioxide levels quickly follow. PROVEN! That have it bass-ackwards. People are sheep.
Now that 10 years of huge sun-spot activity has slowed down, so will the warming. Even on Mars. Yes Mars.
Oh, that's right. We DO have a little car up there don't we.

Comment by Radioboy — July 17, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
Al Gorp (sic)(private joke) "Brilliant"? My Lord, he flunked out of divinity school, he could never understand that two wrongs do not make a right the way two lefts do!! And now he's a climatic guru.
The dems never did publish the school transcripts of their last two geniuses against dummy GW. Too bad, would have been interesting!

Comment by corporal jack — July 17, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
Al Gore has become the World's "Rectal Aqueduct", with a never ending flow of nonsense, self-serving ideas that only a super heavyweight moron could conceive. But, one thing I find extremely strange is how many morons follow this jackass's ideas. Global Warming has become a highly profitable endeavour of Mr. Gore, with a simple slight of a pen, and a certificate of carbon credits, he has managed to pull the rug from under a lot of his followers.

Comment by Gabe Ramis — July 17, 2008 @ 5:40 pm
When, oh when, will AL GORE just shut up and go away?!!!!!!!!!

Comment by MichWolverine — July 17, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
Why is that a good man like Tony Snoe leaves us so early and we still have algore?

Comment by Walter Dixon — July 17, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
You people make me laugh. All you folks do is criticize a man who has been on the correct side of most issues, yet you make fun of him. Quite frankly, you right wing nuts make me sick. You got what you wanted a president who can't string two grammatically correct sentences together at the same time. Yet you laugh at a man that should have been president. Go ahead, have a beer with George, that is why you voted for him. I rather vote for a president that will do his job. Anyone who voted twice for George Bush is complete looser and should be banned from voting for life.

Comment by George — July 17, 2008 @ 5:42 pm
Al Gore musta watched too many Gilligan's Island shows. Too bad he wasn't on the SS Minnow.

Comment by SteveH — July 17, 2008 @ 5:42 pm
I really want to know how they get that the Human race is causing global warming. 1980, the eruption of Mount St. Helens spued more garbage into the atmosphere than the entire history of mankind. Then think about the super volcanos that have erupted over the history of the world.

Comment by Dan — July 17, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!! AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Please Mr. Vice President, lead us, guide us, tell us what to do…. I'm so afraid, please comfort me…. maybe dinner and a movie? No red meat, maybe some whine, ha!

Comment by billschmudlap — July 17, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Where was Al Gore on these issues when he was VP? Nowhere to be seen because at the time there was no money to be made in them. Now there is…and he's cashing in big time! P.T. Barnum was right!

Comment by Tim — July 17, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Here are some facts about Al Gore - consider them before you ever believe anything he says.

FICTION: Al Gore recently claimed that his mother-in-law pays more than $100.00 for the arthritis medicine Lodine; and he claims that his dog takes the same medicine for $37.00, claiming "This is wrong!"
FACT: Gore's aides were quick to apologize for Gore's lie, saying the information was from a Democratic study. Washington newspapers also reported that Al Gore wasn't even sure his mother-in-law was taking any medication at all and wasn't even sure she had arthritis. And, he doesn't know anything about his dog's "arthritis".

FICTION: Al Gore said his father, a senator, was a champion of civil rights during the 1960's.
FACT: Gore's father voted against the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 and was a racist who was fond of using the "N—-" word.

FICTION: Al Gore said that his sister was the very first person to join the Peace Corps.
FACT: By the time Gore's sister joined the Peace Corps, there were already over 100 members.

FICTION: The same sister died of lung cancer years later and Gore vowed to never accept tobacco money as campaign contributions.
FACT: Just four years later, while campaigning for office, Gore spoke to the tobacco industry and said he was one of them because "I've planted it, raised it, cut it, and dried it." He raised over $100,000 in "reported" Big Tobacco contributions.

FICTION: While running for office, Gore's campaign literature claimed he was a "Brilliant Student".
FACT: Washington newspapers said he barely passed Harvard and consistently earned D's and C's.

FICTION: Gore claims an extensive knowledge of law as a result of his extensive study at law school.
FACT: Al Gore dropped out of law school.

FICTION: Gore claimed that his knowledge of God and spirituality came to complete fruition while "finishing" divinity school.
FACT: Al Gore dropped out of divinity school.

FICTION: Al Gore claimed responsibility for inventing the Internet in the 1990's.
FACT: Shocked scientists were quick to speak out, explaining that the Internet had been in widespread use by government and educational institutions since the early 1970's.

FICTION: Al Gore claimed the book "Love Story" was based on his life and Tipper's.
FACT: Author Erich Segal called a press conference to deny his claim. (Couldn't he at least lie about a love story where his sweetheart doesn't die?"

FICTION: Gore claimed that as a reporter for a Nashville newspaper, his stories led to the arrests of numerous corrupt criminals.
FACT: He later apologized for his claim and actually said it was untrue (Also known as lying).

FICTION: Gore claims to increase diversity in the staff that follows him daily, especially among blacks.
FACT: Black members of the Secret Service are suing because they claim they are not being promoted to positions guarding theVice-President.

FICTION: Al Gore said he was the first to discover the Love Canal nuclear accident.
FACT: The incident was already discovered, being investigated, and covered widely in the press for many months before Gore was even aware of it.

FICTION: Gore said just recently that if elected president, he would put harsh sanctions on the sleazy producers of Hollywood's extreme sex and violence.
FACT: Just six days later, Gore attended a fundraiser by Hollywood producers and radical gay activists where he told them that he would only pretend to "nudge them" if elected. He raised over $4 million in campaign contributions.

FICTION: Al Gore said he built his Tennessee home with his bare hands.
FACT: Totally untrue!

FICTION: Al Gore says parents should not have a choice between private and public schools because public schools are far better.
TRUTH: Al Gore attended private school and he has sent his children to private schools.

FICTION: Al Gore remembers his mother lulling him to sleep as a baby by singing the popular ditty, "Wear The Union Label".
FACT: The popular ditty was created by the unions when Gore was 27 years old.

FICTION: Al Gore claimed to co-sponsor the McCain-Feingold Campaign Reform Act.
FACT: The Act was not sponsored until he had been out of office for over a year.

FICTION: Al Gore claims to be instrumental in keeping gas prices low.
FACT: Gore has voted on numerous occasions to raise the tax on gasoline. In his book "Earth In The Balance" Gore claims that the nation's Number One enemy is the internal combustion engine. (That's the motor in your vehicle that gets you to work and takes your kids to school.)

FICTION: Gore pretends to champion the rights of poor women to be tested regularly for breast cancer with the most modern technology.
FACT: While giving a speech on the subject in September, Gore didn't know what a mammogram was.

FICTION: AL Gore promised Florida's senior citizens that they would finally have low-cost drugs with no interference from government.
FACT: Gore's plan calls for the creation of a huge federal agency that would tell you which doctor you are allowed to see in order to get the "special rates".

FACT: Al Gore told NBC's Lisa Meyers that he had never told a lie. When Meyers pressed harder, "You've never told a lie?!" Gore said, "Not that I know of." (DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR?)

Comment by Smokey Word — July 17, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
LEave him alone! He created the Internet just for us, and he still hasn't gotten over losing in 2000 to that really rascally Republican George Bush. He's misunderstood, and maybe mentally unbalanced. Could this be why Dems are pushing for mental health care?

Comment by billschmudlap — July 17, 2008 @ 5:48 pm
Stupid Al Gore. Just for his speech, I'm going to burn $100 of gasoline in my non-energy saving Mustang GT. Bunch of hippies.

"Look at the North Pole! It's melting"

"What about the South Pole? It's actually getting colder."

"Well, down there it's global cooling. Up here it's global warming! Peoples! Do something!"

Comment by Nick Ward — July 17, 2008 @ 5:49 pm
Support Socialism vote Democrat.
Global warming is just another vehicle to support the socialist agenda of elite. Elimination of the middle class is the true plan.
As you lose every right you have as citizen of this great country, you will also lose freedom.
Pelosi and Reid have done absolutly nothing to help the American People. In their eyes you are just an eater. They will not support our troops, or Our Commander in Chief, and they certainly don't care about you either.

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
If any of you believe this caveman, take a look at China. Go there and see how fossil fuels and pollution are destroying the planet. Continue to believe that Global Warming is BS, keep polluting and you'll keep having lots of Hurricane Katrinas, wildfires and other ecological disasters.

Comment by Harper — July 17, 2008 @ 5:51 pm
The comments from the pea-brained conservatives are embarrassing.

You guys need to go find another country to screw up. We've done it your way for a good number of years. So you need to either follow or get the hell out of the way!

Comment by Brent Mack — July 17, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
if anyone here can point me to the "evidence" that global warming is a a hoax i would love to hear it. because from all of the real scientists that i have heard give an opinion on this issue seem to think it is a real and serious problem.

also do people not see an alarming coincidence that our current admistration from the president all the way down, have strong ties to the oil industry, the same industry that is seeing record yearly profits

Comment by ryan — July 17, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Cost to use Solar energy for electricity is $4.86 per watt. http://www.solarpowerathome.com/cost-of-solar-energy.html
This is to do a home. IF you can make a plant that produces power is still being worked on. Some ideas are being built. But do not know if they are cost effective. Does oil need to be $200 a barrel to break even? WHo knows. But an average house and not Al Gores house average it would cost $72,900 That could be a lifetime of paying for electricity to the power company. It would take 60.75 years if your current electric bill is $100 per month.
Costs for electricity from non renewable sources in Wisconsin is 4 cents per KWh. Wind Power is 7.2 Cents and Solar is 40 cents per kwh.
So at the current technology double the cost or 10 times the cost for energy needs at home. http://www.mge.com/environment/wind/cost.htm
Solar only works when you have sunlight
Wind only works if you have wind. Light breeze does not work. So limited areas where it is cost affect.
So any solution right now is more a pipe dream or cost each person up to 10 times the current electric bill. As technology gets developed costs do drop. Wind Power costs is 1/10 what it was in the 1980's. It takes time. But until energy from renewable resources become affordable we need to drill and use our natural resouces. The US spends millions of dollars researching Solar, Wind and other renewable energy productions ideas each year. In time new ideas will be developed that will make it possible to get rid of Oil and coal. But it may be a generation or two to get to that point. We do not need to cripple our economy and cause this research to stop because the companies can not afford to do the research anymore. Too expensive to move the equipment to test sites to see if they work. Or instead of large test sites they go for smaller sites. That is your choice. Democrats prefer to cripple the economy by their stance.

Comment by David Anfinrud — July 17, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Ozone Man…………Lost It a long time ago, What really is sad is so many folks buy his crap!

Comment by B Meyer — July 17, 2008 @ 5:54 pm
What happens when the wind stops?

Right now if it stops, the powerhouse generators, which were idling (using fuel), take up the slack.

Are you willing to put up with 10 minute blackouts every time the wind isn't fast enough to spin up the windmills?

Comment by Tony — July 17, 2008 @ 5:54 pm
Conservation = Good
Alternative Energy Research/Sources = Good
Drilling Here = Good
Man-made Global Wariming = BS!
Al Gore = Mentally Ill

Global Warming won't be the death of us, POLITICIANS WILL.

Comment by Todd D. — July 17, 2008 @ 5:55 pm
Algore's family has been in bed with Occidental Petroleum since the 1940's, he helped push through legislation that benefited Oxy while in the White House. Why don't any of his green disciples ask him about the money he receives every year from Oxy? Will his green initiatives help or hurt Oxy, I bet he finds a way to make them pay him even more. Check out his article about his love of the environment. http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=468

Comment by Michael — July 17, 2008 @ 5:55 pm
@ryan
Even if we did, you'd claim they were "untrue". But look at one simple fact and tell me, if anything, Al Gore believes in it. His electric bill per month is $13,000 in TN. Umm, and he wants ME to save energy? Middle class eugenics, my man.

Comment by Nick — July 17, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
"Gore has finally snapped."
Comment by Larry T

FINALLY???? Where have you been the last 3 to 5 years

Comment by PAULNASHTN — July 17, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
al gore is being funded by China, india or russia to destroy the american economy so they can overtake us as world superpowers and get the upperhand. OK, i don't know if that's true or not but makes you wonder where he's getting the $300 hundreds million to fund his global warming campaign that don't make ANY money…the China explanation is the one that makes the most sense to me: lots of money and they would love to get the US out of the way.
Think it's a conspiracy (yeah, I kind of do too)? But find out where Al gets all his money from. He said he gets it from donating his Nobel Peace Prize winnings…that comes about 95% short of $300 million.

Comment by devin — July 17, 2008 @ 5:58 pm
How much carbon based electrical energy will be required to collect raw amterial, manufacture,transport, and install the windmills and solar panels? Will there be net gain? I doubt if there will be more One kilowatt.

Comment by j, atchison — July 17, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
Hmmmm I just locked in my heating oil price for this coming winter at $5.67 a gallon. Which would mean diesel fule will be $5.75 - $6.00 a gallon and then a loaf of bread will be $5.00.
Yeah!

Comment by Jake — July 17, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
How are there so many idiots in the world. You morons follow the drudge links to any story about progress and regurgitate the conservative talking points. don't you ever get tired of being wrong? Repulican leadership has been TERRIBLE for this country in every measurable way… environment, energy, economy, education, technology, international relations, ad infinitum. Stop representing corrupt and short sighted morons!! You neocons have nothing to be proud of. Your track record is worse than terrible.

Obviously humans have an effect on our environment. Don't you see and feel the smog? You can't all be rural hicks can you?

Why isn't protecting our environment something that we all can get behind?

What the hell is wrong with clean energy? Isn't this a no brainer? What is wrong with you people?!?!

Comment by T — July 17, 2008 @ 6:00 pm
All you need to know about Gore is the billions of gallons of water that were released (a lake was emptied) during a severe drought in Connecticut in the Clinton years so that a river would be high enough for him to get a canoeing photo-op for the evening news.

Such is the genuiness of Al Gore's environmentalism. This is all about ego and career and money, people; nothing else.

Would that Gore would take a royal hike, and take two-thirds of the environmental and Democrat elite with him. The country would be much better.

Comment by Paul — July 17, 2008 @ 6:01 pm
Gore's speech is every bit as ridiculous as Voinovich's crybaby speech condemning John Bolton.

Comment by Ern Collins — July 17, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
Why shouldn't Algore talk like this? Isn't he ready to sell you carbon credits if you need them? He is getting rich off of this. Algore does not give one hoot in hell about this country. This clown has been playing this flim-flam game on us since he lost the election in 2000.There is no fury , like a politician scorn.
The sad part is these idiot walk among us and vote too.

Comment by savage24 — July 17, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
When will this bag of BS debate on this subject, he could not stand up under questioning.
To Orphie comment #37 it wasn't science it was a consensus.

Comment by DebatetheBull — July 17, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
Big Al,

You are still the biggest fool to walk upright on this planet, and you have little fools that believe and follow you around screaming the sky is falling. When I read your little fools comments about global warming I am amused that people can be so dumb. And you have the 2nd and 3rd biggest fools in Nancy P. and Harry R. There you have it the 3 stooges, get a brain Liberals, it is time to wakeup out of your dream world.

Comment by R1 — July 17, 2008 @ 6:04 pm
The average global temperatute has dropped every year since 1997, while the amount of man made CO2 has increased every year. Man made global warming is a Democrat lie that has starved hundreds of thousands of people around the world.

Al Gore is a liar, plain and simple. He is a perfect fit for the democratic party. Please feel free to attack me some more, because you libs always have a difficult time attacking the facts.

Comment by toby — July 17, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
Hey Smokey Word: You are probably the same nut job who preached eight years ago that George Bush was a compassionate conservative and he would be a great president. How has that worked out for you. I don't think I need you "smokey" to tell me the facts. Just take a look all around you and you already know Georgeie boy really screwed up. I am pretty shure that you are full of smoke.

Comment by George — July 17, 2008 @ 6:06 pm
Republicans and big oil are crapping in their pants. Their long held monopoly on energy is under threat and they will use a scorched earth policy (literally and figuratively) to protect their financial interest. It is a free country and big oil has every right to ensure profit based on supply and demand. However, consumers too have the right to seek alternatives in helping to reduce their demand.

Comment by JeffGrossman — July 17, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
All you anti-Gore folks are missing the greater point. Think what you want about him but the writing is on the wall with energy and environment. America has always been a leader and bringing ourselves out of this addiction to fossil fuels will once again put us in a leadership position. I mean really, some of your attacks on Al Gore are just plain filled with hate. Look yourselves in the mirror, think about what you could do for a better earth and stop attacking someone who's actually trying to do something about it.

Comment by jim — July 17, 2008 @ 6:07 pm
The kind of crash ten-year program he's talking about would be better directed at kicking out the illegal aliens. They certainly have a "carbon footprint", though not as big as Gore's.

Private jets and huge houses like Gore's should both be banned.

Comment by P. Scott — July 17, 2008 @ 6:08 pm
I'll admit it I hate Al Gore, but that has no effect on the comments I'm about to make.

How can anyone that claims to be so smart, you know like the guy that posted, "It's a bit rednecky in here" or the people that claim we should all believe NASA because they're NASA, or the idiots that just believe everything that someone tells them without using their own life experiences to see through the lies that come from the mouths of people like AL Gore?

Honestly ask yourself how is it that it's been hotter prior to the world being industrialized?

How is it that if the world is getting hotter, why hasn't the temperature changed since 1998?

How is it that if the world is getting hotter we had record cold last winter, record snow fall, and the California citrus� froze?

How is it that a volcano can explode and produce more co2 emissions in one explosion then all the cars in the world have produced in their history but had no effect on the climate?

How is it that every warm blood creature on this earth exhales c02 emission 24/7/365 but it has no effect on the climate?

And finally how is it that you can't tell me what the average temperature will be next week, but you claim to know what it will be in 50 years?

We don't know what's going to happen, but we do know that we won't wake up one day and it will be 120 degrees everyday, if anything happens at all it will be gradual. So tell me what the average temperature will be in 2009 or 2010, let�s not wait for 50 years, tell me what the temperature is going to be. I mean if we only have 10 years to fix this problem, let�s throw all the money on your "Science" today and see how accurate you are. If you can prove that the temperature is going to rise in 50 years, you should be able to tell me what the temperature will be in 2 or 3 or even 1 year. You can't all you paranoid environmentalist, and no life mind numb robot democrats/liberal even though they're one in the same, don't have any factual proof that has passed the scientific method.

It's ridiculous how stupid you people are, but claim to be so smart.

Comment by Conservative Rob — July 17, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
This isn't about Al Gore. Stop bashing him. Who cares about Al Gore.

The point is… stop polluting. Lets take better care of our environment. Lets get off oil and coal and things that cause toxic pollution and rape our nations resources. You don't have to like Al Gore to do this. Hate Al Gore all you want, just come to terms with the thrust of his argument…

lets not pollute, it's harming our health and the future of our planet. Lets shift to clean technologies. Very obvious stuff here.

Comment by T — July 17, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
HAHAHA! In the sixties the "crisis" was "global cooling." The earth is very good about regulating its temperature. The temperature has already started to drop as of last year. Luckily, despite the media, most people are smarter than these hoaxes.

Comment by Steve-o — July 17, 2008 @ 6:11 pm
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Comment by Neil � July 17, 2008 @ 4:28 pm:

We now have "THE ONE" (Obama) and "THE TOO" (Gore). Where can I get baptized into this new religion as I need to get saved?

*********************************************

Neil,

I agree with you. This Green Movement is definitely a religion being lead by Saint Albert of Gore.

This church has identified a new sin where Saint Paul of Gore reaps all the rewards when he is paid to plant a tree in Africa so he can then absolve all the sinners of their guilt.

Shame, shame on Saint Paul of Gore.

Comment by Howard — July 17, 2008 @ 6:14 pm
I lost all respect for the Nobel Prize selection jury when this fruitcake was awarded 1/2 the Peace Prize. I wish I knew how to make some money on this "global warming" global hysteria. Oceanfront resort in Greenland? It worked for Eric the Red (for awhile anyway).

Comment by L Durham — July 17, 2008 @ 6:16 pm
Want to clean the environment? Simple, really.
1. All intakes to be downstream of outfalls.
2. All corporate management to live within .5 miles of outfalls.
3. All elected officials to be
a. limited to 2 terms
b. to be paid equal to the median of their
constituents
c. have benefits equal to the median of
their constituents
d. have all assets before election frozen
so they must live like their constituents
4. If an official states that XYZ poses no health hazard, that person and his family is required to consume 4X the daily dose of that material.
5. To be PC, "speculative investors" will be called by a shorter name: "bookies."

Comment by Jubal — July 17, 2008 @ 6:19 pm
Didn't Gore give us a "10 years left for mankind" speech….bout 10 years ago?

I think we will see this man in prison within the next 10 years for crimes against humanity.

Comment by SteveH — July 17, 2008 @ 6:20 pm
It is very telling that Gore concentrates his effort in two areas:
1., He wants to shut down scientific debate ("the science is settled" )
2., Push for legislative action ( which he knows would be hard to reverse )
This does not sound like statements of a person confident that the validity of his claims would stand up to scrutiny.

Comment by Tom — July 17, 2008 @ 6:20 pm
We do not have an energy crisis. The Saudis are our friends as are all OPEC countries. No need to worry. Senator Voinovich is on a first-name basis with God.

Comment by Louis — July 17, 2008 @ 6:21 pm
Al "Baby Huey" Gore is a quack!

Comment by Rick — July 17, 2008 @ 6:22 pm
The arctic is melting? Fine. You think it never melted before? It has. It's not because of Algore's tirades. Don't some of you see that you have been duped on this? The world changes every century from time immemorial. Cold, then hot. You want to STOP global warming? Go sit on a street corner with a sign, STOP GLOBAL WARMING. We must adapt to climate change. Whenever, wherever it might occur.

There's a bigger tune to this. What if the earth's CORE is getting hotter? People will blame the volcano's on global warming too. Everything is because of global warming. What a crock.

Comment by Risa — July 17, 2008 @ 6:23 pm
Krakatoa erupted in 1863. Read about it AL. It spewed more in the atmosphere than we will in 100,000 years. Mt St. Helens in comparison was like blowing out a matchstick.

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 7:32 pm
Lets see if Fat Algore can use less energy on his own home in ten years. What a fathead. Live it up in a mansion, fly around on private jets. Hang out with the Kennedy's on their gas guzzling yachts and they lecture me on green house gas emissions. What a hypocrite!

Comment by Dave — July 17, 2008 @ 7:33 pm
I agree we need a multi-pronged approach, but I do not think that approach should be based on scientific consensus, as Lawrence Solomon calls it, rather than sound statistical, climatological and geological assessments.

There's a big dustup beginning among members of the American Physical Society–the story just broke this afternoon. Solomon has proved the "incontrovertible" evidence claimed to prove man-made climate change is not incontrovertible. There's a story at Daily Tech [http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm]

I think traffic must be heavy because that page can take awhile to load, but you can read the essay at aps.org, in the Physics and Society Unit, and I also blogged about this at Red State, a conservative website [http://www.redstate.com/diaries/kbday/2008/jul/17/breaking-news-sunlight-shines-on-global-warm/].

There are many distinguished experts who disagree with Gorian philosophy on this subject.

I never bought into it at all. Read ancient history. Read NASA reports about climate change on other planets.

And btw it's no longer called global warming. It's now, according to an EPA notice, called climate change. And some at APS are calling it climate sensitivity.

I repeat that we should develop alternative forms of energy. But it cannot be done overnight and we cannot continue to divert food crops as we are doing now. People in other countries are going hungry, not because of climate change, but because of internal strife, corrupt leadership and politics. In my opinion.

Comment by Kay B. Day — July 17, 2008 @ 7:37 pm
If we could capture all the hot gases coming out of Gore, it would like NYC for the next 10 years.

Comment by Robert/Woodstock/GA — July 17, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
… excuse me, … that would 'light' NYC for the next 10 years.

Comment by Robert/Woodstock/GA — July 17, 2008 @ 7:41 pm
[...] Some of the affected companies really need to start thinking about suing Gore and his friends for the damage they are causing.� Make that a class action suit [...]

Pingback by Killing Jobs to Save the Climate *** | Jack’s Newswatch — July 17, 2008 @ 7:44 pm
First the globe (the earth)! For those that live in Rio Linda! Has always had variations,warm,warmer,warmest,cold,colder,coldest! From a tropical north,and southpole, To Ice burgs,and below zero most of the year! Some scientist claimed (some60-70 years ago! That the whole earth was going to face mass starvation because of the coming global freezing! In that same time period (or maybe a few years later.) Some scientist claimed there would not be enough "air" for people to breath by the year 2000! Also it was accepted and believed that the world would run out of oil in the next 20 years or so! This was before the major discoveries in the middle east! (We still have not discovered all the oil in America let alone the world!) After the middle east discoveries' such as Saudi Arabia! It was believed there were only so many barrels of oil!(I forget the amount!) But we have been taking out that amount "each year" since it was discovered and drilled. Well over 50 years ago! As much as the experts claimed was in the ground! Many other such foolishness by those with PHD's have been proven "foolish" presumptions! (A book could be writtin on this subject!) Remember for "many of you", the first war in Iraq?? There were all sorts of terrible predictive statements made by the GREATISTS PHD's of the day! Like if the US attacked, (Iraq) and the Islamics did as they claimed they wouild do,such as set the oil wells on fire! It would cause a "nuclear winter",thus mass starvation!Thru-out thje world!! And it would take atleast 20-25 or more years to put out the fires! I believe in "reality" it took a few years like 1-2 years!!(This from the great men of Knowledge!) Well they "may think" they know it ALL!! But only "foolish people" would believe "everything" no matter how many PHD's!! Remember PHD's are just as politically motivated as "anyone"! That and they are also paid by the government by "grant money"! Which controls their lively hood and passions of teaching! That is one of the major factors today! To bad but true! There is not ONLY oil money involved. The techic Co's are also paying a few people! Al Gore stands to be a billionare if his "carb trading" works out as he hopes it will! Plus he will have "saved the world" praise be to HIM!! I do believe the techs will be competitive in the not to distant future! Nothing a matter with science to advance and replace older methods of energy production! But "right now it can assist a little, but it is "foolish" to think we can within 10 years or 20 years completely change our methods of produceing energy! And not to worry as a result the earth is not going to self destruct, no matter how many All Gore's claims it will! Woild you have believed the PHD's in the past with their dire predictions??? Would you NOT have been "foolish" to have believed them?? You are then a "foolish" person!!If not do you NOT care if you are wrong again and have been HAD by people like Al Gore??

Comment by zack — July 17, 2008 @ 7:50 pm
Kill My Television

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 7:50 pm
It's time to consider new sources of energy. I'm 90% there with Mr. Gore. The truth is that America is filled with ignorant selfish morons. How else could such an idiot be voted president for 2 terms. so don't bitch when the best places in the country are owned by foreigners and gas is $8.00 a gallon.
Don't make this country appear to be even more insipid than it is.

Comment by earnest villians — July 17, 2008 @ 7:51 pm
How can the Left be so out of touch with reality so often? I can't believe I used to vote Democrat when I was in my 20's. Maybe it was because I was out of touch too!

Comment by Mike — July 17, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
Sorry, sparky, but I can't put solar energy or wind power in my gas tank. Perhaps we could harness all of the energy you and your bobble-head sycophants put into your stupid, utopian fantasies and come up with something a little more practical. And the very thought that this ass almost made it to the Oval Office makes me shudder. Al, go sit on your Oscar.

Comment by MDWhite — July 17, 2008 @ 7:57 pm
"Let them eat cake." (Nancy Pelosi Antoinette)

Comment by Logic Lee — July 17, 2008 @ 7:57 pm
The radical Left opposes Nuclear Energy. Nuclear is the only current viable alternative. Gore speaks with Forked Tongue.

Comment by Dennis D — July 17, 2008 @ 8:01 pm
Every time Gore speaks about saving the planet, it means it�s going to cost us money.

Comment by Robert — July 17, 2008 @ 8:02 pm
Al Gore has become a character actor for the Democratic party; a fat copy of Ed Wynn as the Mad Hatter.

Comment by Ben — July 17, 2008 @ 8:04 pm
Gore is such an idiot. Is he going to bequeath all his wealth for the good of humanity? Maybe if he quits flying around in his private jet we wont have global warming. Specially if he closes his yap.

Comment by fred banks — July 17, 2008 @ 8:08 pm
[...] the same day that Al Gore delivered one of the most "ridiculous" speeches of his career, The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly [...]

Pingback by These guys are scientists, right? : Post-Ed Notes — July 17, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
I have evidence that environmental groups and the Democrat congress have worked together for decades to prevent drilling in ANWR, prevent drilling off shore in the Atlantic, prevent the development of oil shale, prevent refinery construction, and prevent nuclear power plant construction.

The result has been a huge trade imbalance, a threat to national security, and a multi trillion dollar transfer of American wealth to America hating regimes in the mid east.

Oh wait. That's not a conspiracy. These are facts.

Comment by Walter Jones — July 17, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
No. What is ridiculous is that global warming is already infected half the companies in this country and probably all school children because of the impotent, feeble response of the Republicans and others who are too afraid of standing on either facts or principle. Republicans are to blame for this mess for not strongly stomping it out like it should have been.

Comment by Robert — July 17, 2008 @ 8:13 pm
Al Gore is so full of hot air that he is a major contributor to any actual global warming. Besides that, any current global warming is a natural and logical consequence of the relative recent demise of the 500 years Little Ice Age. Would you rather have lived during that long cold period during which many millions died? The global warming alarmists rely solely on fear, scare and dire predictions, since they have NO scientific evidence to substantiate their positions.

Comment by hwm982xx — July 17, 2008 @ 8:14 pm
Thank you posters for shedding light on the idiocy of algore. Peak Oil, Global Warming, Terrorism, and our Economic Woes are all related to the democrat interest in self destruction of the US.

Why so many democrats are so threatened by a facts is really unfortunate.

The scientific evidence is overwhelming that Peak Oil and Global Warming are made up issues designed to give power to a few over the many.

Let's all work together to solve this crisis by getting rid of all the democrats!

Comment by The Pope — July 17, 2008 @ 8:19 pm
How fascinating are these posts! I especially love the ad hominum attacks on Gore…notice how so many of them have obvious and glaring spelling errors? Like "baffoon", for instance.
Why is there such a reluctance to face reality? Do these poor folks actually thing that bashing Gore will change things? If there is such a need to find somebody to blame, try looking in a mirror. This energy crisis has been foreseen for about 30+ years now, yet idiots are still buying big engined vehicles (with fat payment books)and are quite willing to let some neighbor kid get blown away in a stupid war before they give it up and learn to walk. I can be forgiven, I hope, for finding it all deliciously funny: Mommy, I can't drive my big truck! Mommy, the liberals won't let me use my jet-ski or my motorcycle! Mommy, why won't the Democrats let me run my air conditioner?!
How about somebody suggesting that America wake up and at least think about being a bit less selfish, a bit less fascinated with itself, a teeny-tiny bit more aware that others share this planet - what's left of it - and the days of America ruling the world are gone, gone, gone. The GOP wants to lead the charge backwards, let 'em: it'll be fun to watch. Let the Republicans and the other flat earthers bury the dead…the rest of us may see this as opportunity to find solutions - which begins with growing up. What a hoot…a complete kick in the pants. Line up at the gas-pumps, fools, and bash Carter and Gore: see if that helps gas prices go down. Silly children, you make me laugh.

Comment by Inri Porter — July 17, 2008 @ 8:19 pm
Al should be hooked up to a life support system that is powered by a windmill.When the wind stops so will he.

Comment by LOOK OUT — July 17, 2008 @ 8:19 pm
Look, Gore invented the environment, so he probably knows what he's talking about. Probably.

Comment by d ranger — July 17, 2008 @ 8:21 pm
DEMOCRATS HAVE RUINED THIS COUNTRY>
OBAMMA IS A JOKE
CONGRESS IS CORRUPT
MOST OF AMERICANS HAVE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES

If you actually had to write your own check to government for taxes instead of having it taken out, maybe you would care.

IF AL GORE PULLED THIS CRAP IN CHINA HE WOULD BE EXECUTED. Same thing for our weak ass CONgressmen

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 8:22 pm
Has anyone ever considered the energy benefits that could be realized by hooking the democrats up to America's homes and providing them with an endless stream of forced hot air. The only fear might be in having to lock homes down to the ground to keep them from floating away. Seriously though, the biggest problem that faces America is politicians whose only real concern is their own political longevity caring not one wit about the American people.

Comment by George Verevkin — July 17, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
Al Bore has major investments in all the non petro based resources. That's his scam.

Comment by GorebalScams — July 17, 2008 @ 8:24 pm
[...] the same day that Al Gore delivered one of the most "ridiculous" speeches of his career, The American Physical Society, an organization representing 50,000 [...]

Pingback by David Harsanyi's Blog | Author of Nanny State — July 17, 2008 @ 8:24 pm
Algore is not the fool. Those that unwittingly accept the assertions of this uneducated man are the fools.

He is entitled to his opinion. But the educated and rational are also entitled to ignore him.

If you disagree, kindly cite algore's scientific and educational credentials.

Comment by The Pope — July 17, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
post #10 -First time in history you can sail to the north pole? Really? In all my years of school, especially earth science class, I learned that at one time in history the poles were tropical. If you want to blame yourself for the cycles of the earth, go ahead, but I doubt you will go live like a cave man anytime soon.

Comment by Rob — July 17, 2008 @ 8:30 pm
The fact that all the wacko environmentalists including the vast Left wing think that people can heat their homes during the Winter with one big hug or a solar array or a wind turbine shows their utter ignorance. If people want to combat the harsh cold of Winter they have to BURN SOMETHING to create the heat - duuuuuuhhhhhh!!!

Comment by Mark, Hawaii — July 17, 2008 @ 8:34 pm
Gore is a fool. It has been shown you could move everyone out of Conneticutt and fill the entire state with windmills and they would not produce the power necessary to run Manhattan. So what are you going to do for the rest of New York? Cover New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Ohio, Maryland and a few more states with nothing but windmills? The simple facts are windmills and solar will never produce but a very small percentage of the country's electricl needs. And where does Gore expect to get "clean", meaning low sulphur coal? The only large deposit was in Utah and Bill Clinton declared it off limits to mining. Of course Bill Clinton's buddy and big time donor James Riaddy has "clean" coal to sell, and we can pay to transport it all the way from Asia. Come on folks, do some reading. Get educated about energy sources.

Cheyenne

Comment by Cheyenne — July 17, 2008 @ 8:34 pm
Al Gore has NO IDEA what the hell he is talking about. This hysteria about gas and global warming is all a plot to break our society down to that of a third world nation. Al Gore knows this, and is a con man.

Comment by William — July 17, 2008 @ 8:37 pm
Man caused global warming and global cooling hysteria is a tool leftists use to gain political power, nothing more. Unfortunately millions of americans have been duped by the leftist again.

FACT: For millions and millions of years our temperature has never remained stable. We're constantly warming or cooling. To now say that man is responsible for any global warming considering our emissions are .01% of all global warming gasses is a absurd.

Global warming alarmists and the greenies are destroying our county. They don't like wind power, solar power or nuclear energy. Ultimately they will oppose biofuels because of the farming activity associated with producing it.

And don't let em fool with the politically correct buzz word of the week. "Peak Oil". The known world supply of oil actually increased last year. We're finding new oil faster than we're using it.

Comment by Roger — July 17, 2008 @ 8:39 pm
and don't forget, Al Gore invented the Internet ….

Comment by Stefan — July 17, 2008 @ 8:44 pm
There is an oil field in Syria called the Al-Gore field - I kid you not. And a good thing, too, as Al-Gore the humanoid needs several Al-Gore fields simply to support his own huge hypocritical carbon footprint.

Comment by Arack Bobama — July 17, 2008 @ 8:52 pm
What about HYDRO? Here in the U.S. we have the means to produce electricity that is not even being considered. I am sure we can build fish ladders for the migrating fish a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than wind mills. Then again enviro-wachos have taken that off the table.

Comment by Tom Eberlin — July 17, 2008 @ 8:55 pm
Nuclear energy people….

"Since air pollution from coal burning is estimated to be causing 10,000 deaths per year, there would have to be 25 melt-downs each year for nuclear power to be as dangerous as coal burning."

http://physics.isu.edu/radinf/np-risk.htm

Comment by dberze — July 17, 2008 @ 8:56 pm
Gore: US needs abandon fossil fuels within the next 10 years.

The United States' response: The country will abandon Al Gore by 2010.

Comment by Chris — July 17, 2008 @ 9:02 pm
I still come to the good old common sense question

How will people keep their bodies warm when it is 10F degrees outside for days at a time during the winter months?

Is it that the politicians are trying to make the People (their bosses) freeze to death?

We have been burning wood, coal, and oil for centuries before electricity and cars just to keep the Planet from killing us by freezing us

Its called survival - have the 'leaders' of our country forgot what that word means?

Common Sense - where did it go?

Comment by Mark, Hawaii — July 17, 2008 @ 9:03 pm
Yeah, our energy policy that has been written by the Bush administration at the behest of the oil companies and brought us $4 oil is working great! More drilling! More coal!

Global warming is a hoax. The American Academy of Sciences, the UN, and pretty much every credible scientific organization in the country that claim that global warming is real are a bunch of disingenuous lib'ruls. Inhofe, Voinovich and the rest of those congressmen in the pockets of big oil are much smarter and more objective than a bunch of scientists with their fancy PhDs.

Creation in 7 days is fact? Global warming is a hoax? God, you people need a clue.

Comment by Skokiejeeters — July 17, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
50,000 scientists are ALL LIARS!!!!
http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm

Comment by Tommy — July 17, 2008 @ 9:08 pm
Fools! Those of you that buy into the nonsense that the betrayer Al Gore spouts off are willing to believe that man has some kind of power over the earth reserved for God. I hope you all enjoy your places in Hell.

Comment by Gabriel — July 17, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
10 years? So why didn't we do this back in 1973 when the first oil embargo hit us? Al Gore is full of it.

Comment by nick — July 17, 2008 @ 9:18 pm
ITS TIME FOR BOTH GORE AND PELOSI TO GET OUT OF TOWN. GORE IS A HAS BEEN, PELOSI IS RIGHT BEHIND HIM. GOODBYE SLEEP TIGHT!

Comment by oldsheepdog — July 17, 2008 @ 9:23 pm
Jon Vander Po and David , you people should get an education. One and I mean just one Volcano spews enough sulfuric acid, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxied, and other gases daily and one weeks worth is more than all the cars in the US, Europe and the rest of the world. You people are so stupied as to want to give up many of your freedoms in the most insidious ways know by the left wing elite. Really try to look into the real science and stop taking some "experts" theory and I mean theory as fact. Some of these so called 'scientists are doctors of nothing related to the science of the earth.

Comment by larry — July 17, 2008 @ 9:25 pm
Do any of these windmill and solar dimwits understand that you still have to have a fossil or nuclear plant as a backup because SOMETIMES THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE AND THE WIND DOESN'T BLOW??!!!!

Comment by tdrag — July 17, 2008 @ 9:25 pm
what is interesting on this post by all the supporters of the global warming hoax is that they are in self-denial about the end result to them and their children. If taken to the levels that they want. It won't be just republicans that won't have electricity, transportation or jobs.
If America was the center of polution and the rest of the world was living in paradise then it might make sense. But sense is not the realm of the environmentalists.
as for the scientists in the global warming hoax, they are the re-incarnation of the same scientists that stated the world was flat, debated how many angels fit on the head of a pin and oppressed any one who said that the earth revolved around the sun

Comment by Roger — July 17, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
How Al Gore creates pollution:

a. He breathes.
b. He takes private jets [don't give me the baloney about the "feel-good" carbon credits].
c. His family breathes.
d. He is not vegetarian.

So, Al - if you want to stop Global Warming, you could start by not breathing.

Nancy.

P/S: Greens who try to stop breathing might find that my suggestions are injurious to health.

Comment by Robert Shaw — July 17, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
Energy independence for the USA is my number one priority as a voter.

I emailed my Reps and Senators. I pledged to them that if they support oil drilling USA wide, building refineries, building nuclear power plants, solar, wind, and other energy independence for the USA they get my vote. The entire package, not piece meal, not this and that. If they do support energy indendence ie whole, I will vote for any challenger against them regardless of the challengers position.

Either support our independence from foreign oil, that supports many of the worlds dictactors, and moves massive US currency out of country, or go find a new job. PERIOD. Contact your congressional members and tell them ENOUGH!!!!

ENERGY INDEPENDENCE FOR THE USA AND OUR CURRENCY STAYS HOME - OR YOU WILL BE VOTED OUT OF YOUR CONGRESSIONAL OFFICE.

Comment by Darrel — July 17, 2008 @ 9:31 pm
Ah, Mark…wherever common sense went, it didn't go to Hawaii. There is no point in looking for something to burn when it is 10 degrees F. outside: we'll all just go someplace warm to hang out. Like Hawaii: see how the islands' environments support that. But don't worry, Mark…you can keep heading west. Try Johnson Island, then Palau, then Fiji. When you get to China, send us a post about environmental degradation and your lungs, eh?
It's not called survival, it's called over-population and mal-distribution.
And in terms of sense: notice the staggering % of these posts that do NOT deal with the concerns, but rather try to find a solution in a witch-hunt.
Turn off the lights. Wear a sweater. Walk. Sterilize yourself…especially if you voted for Bush.

Comment by Inri Porter — July 17, 2008 @ 9:33 pm
Only mad scientists and liberals lay out in the noon day global warming hoax. Just like they did 30 years ago in the coming ice age hoax. Just like they did 100 years ago when liberals were selling snake oil. Just like they did 3000 years ago when they said the sun wouldn't rise in the morning unless the peasants gave them a chicken.

Comment by I survived Global Warming 2007 in Iraq — July 17, 2008 @ 9:35 pm
Ha ha ha.. Gore is still the pompous, elitist hypocrite. He should move to Hollywood.

Comment by commonsense — July 17, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
Man-made global warming is a myth perpetrated by the anti-industrialist of the far left. Their usual effort to reduce the U.S. to 3rd world status.

Governments and the U.N. love it because it gives them justifiable reason to consume more of our GDP through the increase in taxes. The price tag on a global warming fix according to the U.N. is in the double digit trillions of dollars.

We always hear about greedy business, what about greedy government? Our's sucked $3 trillion out of our economy this year and it goes up every year.

There is nothing to worry about in regard to business. They can't hurt us. But govenment has the force of law.

Time to run them all out and elect new.

Comment by Dave — July 17, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
Are,t we lucky Gore was not president. Bush has not done much — except he best Gore. CPF

Comment by C. Farley — July 17, 2008 @ 9:38 pm
Rather than criticize al-Gore we should be thanking him for allowing us this 10 year window in which to completely transform an economy based on fossil fuels to one which is powered by wind, snow, rain, and sun.

Comment by bluecollarbytes — July 17, 2008 @ 9:38 pm
Well…. Finally the real debate may begin.
http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm
some real research should be done before we jump on the AG bandwagon and wast the whole worlds economy.

Comment by SMiller — July 17, 2008 @ 9:40 pm
you can always tell when people find a news link from the Drudge Report. It's like far-right talking points non-stop.

PS, Inri, We in Hawaii don't want you. Don't come. Surfing isn't any fun.

Comment by Stiv — July 17, 2008 @ 9:43 pm
Why are all you right-wingers frightened of change? Are you willing to gamble your children and grandchildren's futures on continuing our misguided, carbon-using, polluting, earth-harming ways?

We who believe that a change is necessary think those of you who choose to kill the messenger but not hear the message (read Republicans) will go the way of the dinosaurs you are.

Comment by Richard — July 17, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
Gore suffered a mental breakdown back in 2000 & 2001. You liberals know he snapped and I wonder what promises were made to keep him staged. It has to be the money. Follow the money!!

I lived in Carthage and I can tell you no one knows this man. That's the reason he could not carry his own state.

Why will he not debate his money making beliefs with real scientist?

Follow the money!

Comment by Carey — July 17, 2008 @ 9:46 pm
Inri you sound jealous

as far as over-population goes - tell us just what the mean population of the Earth is supposed to be? you evidently have the mean surface temp for the Earth down too ya?

give us the numbers oh all knowing one

fyi here's a known fact for ya

we could put the entire population of the Earth in the state of Texas and give them enough land to settle they couldnt see their neighbor

the Earth is not a fragile little egg that needs pampered - its a big revovling orb in space that could make us all die very fast - and not by our doing - except by our arrogant ignorance to not shelter ourselves

good luck keeping warm this winter - I'll be fine

Aloha

Comment by Mark, Hawaii — July 17, 2008 @ 9:48 pm
Isn't ironic that Al Gore comes out with his asinine proposal just when the American Society of Physicists support the idea that global warming is not a man-made phenomenon but a natural cycle of temperatures.

Comment by cluelessinky — July 17, 2008 @ 9:49 pm
What is causing the global warming on Mars?
A. SUVs
B. Sun Spots

What is causing the global warming on earth?
A. SUVs
B. Sun Spots

Comment by Jack Johnson — July 17, 2008 @ 9:51 pm
For the sake of argument, let's assume that man made global warming is a hoax (which is still supported by an overwhelming majority of the world's scientists). Nevertheless, where is the downside to converting to an all-renewable, non polluting energy source? Is because a Democrat is the one showing leadership? What, will the oil companies lose their clout and money? Horrible!

Environmental degradation is still the greatest non-war threat to biological diversity humanity has ever faced. And, even if MMGW is a hoax, humanity is DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the planet's environmental degradation, no doubt about it. To argue otherwise is flat out intellectual dishonesty. What's wrong with finding ways that are less damaging to the planet and it's wildlife?

Comment by Steven — July 17, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
Every time I hear Al Gore speak I thank God for George W Bush. To think we were a few hundred votes away from this lunatic. Perhaps all civil wars aren't so bad.

Comment by Jason — July 17, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
A few things about Algore and energy.

1. For those of you WHINING about Algore losing the election (because of a little document called the CONSTITUTION), Florida would not have mattered in the least if the Gore Man had carried his home state of Tennessee. He had already betrayed us! Ever hear a liberal mention that!

2. In January 2006 Gore also said we have only ten years left to save ourselves from ourselves! Two and one half years later he still gives us ten years. I can hear Al Gore in 2018 again saying we will be doomed in ten years! HA! And he will still be one of the largest personal consumers of carbon energy!

3. The solution to the problem is not ONE thing. It is a series of things. We are dependent on foreign countries for 70% of our oil, and we will not be weaned off of oil entirely EVER! There are too many things (other than gasoline) that are oil based. A combination of drilling NOW to reduce foreign dependence, clean coal, nuclear power (already available technology if the government would let the industry move forward), and some wind power while we continue to work on alternative sources of energy is the realistic way to go.

4. Will Al Gore show up to debate anyone on the current state of energy and Global Warning? OF COURSE NOT. He would LOSE BIG TIME! And he knows it!

5. The earth is several billion years old. Does anyone really believe the climate has been the same since the beginning of the earth. How does Algore explain Global Warming and Global Cooling BEFORE the world was industrialized. There are larger forces at work than man!

6. If the perceived problem was GLOBAL COOLING (as always-correct scientists predicted not so many years ago), how would Algore correct that??? Build a lot of bonfires! Makes about as much sense as his other insane ramblings.

I could go on and on an on, he is such an easy target.

DanTheMan

Comment by Dan — July 17, 2008 @ 9:53 pm
Incredible! I have never seen so many ignorant morons in one place. Such idiocy to defy progress toward energy indpendence is unbelievable. You would apparently rather fight wars for energy than utilize the sun and win. Pathetic. Sad.

Comment by wvvoiceofreason — July 17, 2008 @ 9:54 pm
Leave it to Drudge to bring the right-wing whack-jobs out of the woodwork.

Comment by Marshall — July 17, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
I've got the sneaking suspicion that all of Gore's hot air is the cause of global warming.

Comment by Doug — July 17, 2008 @ 9:57 pm
Jason — You are perhaps the scariest individual on this blog. If you are a conservative, as you most probably are from your post, for you to still unquestioningly tout the so-called benefits of George Bush shows how blinded you are by your own politics. Think for yourself. Real conservatives (let's say Goldwater-types, for instance) think Bush is a horrible president. You must be either a moneyed aristocrat or a CEO of a corporation to think Bush is a good president.

Comment by Goldie — July 17, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
You Uber-Libs just kill me. You've allowed this snake-oil salesman to convince you that the sky is falling, while he becomes wealthy selling "Carbon Credits" to the gullible. He doesn't even beleive his own rhetoric:

"�A man�s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,� said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. �Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.�

In the past year, Gore�s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

In February 2007, An Inconvenient Truth, a film based on a climate change speech developed by Gore, won an Academy Award for best documentary feature. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research uncovered that Gore�s Nashville home guzzled 20 times more electricity than the average American household." (source 06/23/08 press release from the Tennessee Center for Policy Reseach - an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization).

Do you sheep have no critical thinking ability whatsoever? Do you truly not see the hypocricy? Aren't you the same kool-aid drinkers constantly yammering about "Cheney and Halliburton"? This guy is scamming you, becoming insanely wealthy in the process, and blows more energy in a day in his 25,000 square foot mansion than you do in 2/3 of a year, yet you lick his feet and treat him like some sort of god.

Astoundingly Pathetic.

Signed - An informed independent who actually reads and drinks neither party's partisan kool-aid.

Comment by Tim_CA — July 17, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
Does anyone know what 95% of all greenhouse gas on earth is comprised of?

Comment by Jack Johnson — July 17, 2008 @ 10:05 pm
Tim_CA

kudos for that post I'm with ya bud

Aloha

Comment by Mark, Hawaii — July 17, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
To all you skeptics - Wind power actually works. I installed a mast and sail on the roof of my Hummer 1 and my fuel savings have been astonishing. Even though I am 3 hours late to work every day, it's only because I am new to tacking.

Comment by Sigmond — July 17, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
It's WATER VAPOR! CO2 is less than 5%. Man-Made CO2 is a tiny fraction of THAT.

Comment by Jack Johnson — July 17, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
the most important thing about the energy problem, is that regardless of your position on global warming. do we really want to be dependent on the middle east for our energy needs, wouldnt it benefit our national security, and economy for us to great self sustaining sources of energy within our borders??

and before you say off-shore drilling look into it 80% of off shore oil fields are all ready available for drilling and only about 30% of those are in use so lets drill there before we open up any more

Comment by ryan — July 17, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
wvvoiceofreason:

LOL Nothing like a bunch of Leftist hypocrisy.

Let's talk to that wonderful Leftist, Teddy Kennedy about "alternative energy."

Let's talk to that wonderful Leftist, John Forbes Kerry about "alternative energy."

Let's talk to that wonderful Leftist, Harry Reid, about "alternative energy."

Let's talk to that wonderful Leftist, Nancy Pelosi, about "alternative energy."

I could go on, and on, and on.

And, while we�re at it, let�s talk about AL GORE AND HIS BILLIONS OF VERY OWN OIL INCOME vs. Bush/Cheney and their lack of oil income.

Yes, that�s right, the Left screams OIL = Bush/Cheney, yet the truth is that AL GORE OWES HIS FAMILY FORTUNE TO DIRTY OIL OWNERSHIP!!!!!!

ASK AL GORE WHAT BILL CLINTON DID TO CAUSE HIM TO BE VERY, VERY, VERY, RICH AND TO BUILD RIDICULOUS ENERGY DEVOURING MANSIONS FOR HIS FAT WIFE AND FAT ALBERT TO LIVE LIKE THE KING AND QUEEN OF HYPOCRITE-VILLE!!!!!!!!

IT�S CALLED ELK HILLS!!!!!!!!!!!

HYPOCRITE! Thy name is LEFTIST, LIBERAL WHINING LIARS!

Comment by Margo Granholm-West — July 17, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
Since I do not have a PHD like 90% of the people here, I look at photos of the past. Especially of glaciers and ice masses. They are shrinking and doing so at an alarming rate. This is not normal. I also grew up near freeways and have seen the soot and grim they leave behind, not to mention the increase in asthma rates of my nieces and nephews. We need to do something. I believe Gore and am doing what I can to help decrease the amount of trash I leave behind. Would you like to come back to this world in say 50 years? I am living my life as I will be comming back, time and time again. What will it cost you to conserve a bit here and their? If your going to get upset get upset with yourself for not doing something to improve the world you live in.

Comment by Albert — July 17, 2008 @ 10:13 pm
Mahalo Mark…it just amazes me.

Comment by Tim_CA — July 17, 2008 @ 10:14 pm
There are many interesting comments posted here. Many of them are witty. None of them matter. You need to pay very close attention to this. This is easily the most serious posting.

Those of us on the Right who understand what is going on are extremely well-armed. If you are on the Left and are under some delusion that you have some power, this post is for you.

If you provoke us far enough, we WILL respond. Under no circumstances will we allow our country to be turned over to left-wing, tax-loving, homo-loving, central government-loving, effeminate girly-men and their hairy-armpit, mustachioed women to try to impose a socialist/communist government. It isn�t going to happen. Period!

There are millions of us and each one is capable of taking out a small town. There is no amount of gun-control legislation or laws that will work. It is far too late for that. There isn�t going to be any house-to-house searches to confiscate weapons. The men in law enforcement at all levels are on the Right. If you can point out a faggy, effeminate police force, I�d like to hear about it. The minute there is extreme resistance, all bets are off.

If chaos and mass hysteria breaks out, you are doomed if you are on the left. Count on it.

Comment by GeorgeWashington — July 17, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
We are all going to die. americans brainwashed by Algore go on a windmill building binge. Wind cirulation patterns of the world are stopped in their tracks by the many windmills. You know what happens when there is no wind… it gets even hotter…. Penguins learn to speak and protest…. polar bears make war on humanity… its all true I swear.. Algore said it was so. The Chinese laugh all the way to the bank, their economy flourishes and they have the highest standard of living on earth. Americans all go to living in caves… except for Algore and his Hollywood friends… we all sleep well in the dark nights ahead… because by following Algore… we saved humanity… and probably even the universe.

Comment by Rob — July 17, 2008 @ 10:18 pm
GeorgeWashington

you've said it all

dittos and salute

carry on

Aloha

Comment by Mark, Hawaii — July 17, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
I shouldn't be surprised anymore but I continue find it intriguing, and amusing if it weren't so sad, that the most misguided (read as - wrong) are regularly the most vociferously so.
Some of the writers on this chain are beyond ignorant on this subject yet feel compelled to cast aspersions on those who speak out.
You may not agree with Gore's message; his speaking in absolute terms about these things that remain theory - good theory but still jsut that - but the man has a solid knowledge of the subject. Attacking him AND labeling all who believe that global warming is a problem as leftist zealots is non-sensical.
Humorous if not so darn sad.

Suggest you do some research rather than getting all your 'facts; from Hannity, Limbaugh or OReilly.

Comment by KMac — July 17, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
Al Gore couldn't sell the lockbox because Americans are not as gullible as he thought and he won't be able to sell this to them either. Maybe Tipper should throw him in the lockbox and keep him home.

Comment by Al (not Gore) — July 17, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
Correction to my post and its typo above: I meant "extinct as dinosaurs" not "instinct." But George Washington and the rest of you idiot Righties are probably too stupid to catch the typo.

Comment by PissedOffLeftie — July 17, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
Is Al Gore still a big shareholder in Occidental Petroleum (OXY)? Does OXY still have a zinc mone on Al's property in TN where Al gets royalties? The same property that has leaked zine into the ground water and local rivers? Scientists are starting to realize that the global warming/climate change scam will not fly and tehy are starting to disown it.

Comment by Franc — July 17, 2008 @ 10:29 pm
Why would algoracle care if his speech is ridiculous or not? I'm sure that he already received his outlandish fee for the appearance. He probably could have done anything — including denouncing himself as a charlatan — and still kept it.

Comment by Aki Korhonen — July 17, 2008 @ 10:29 pm
MAN made warming? BS. Gore and his rabble of village idiots are ready to have us taxed into the stone age for this utter garbage. Fools.

Comment by Shaggy13 — July 17, 2008 @ 10:34 pm
It's amazing that anyone is still listening to Al Gore. This money-grubbing charlatan has made a personal fortune peddling his bogus man-made global warming baloney. I have no doubt that he is heavily invested in any so-called "green" solution he is now touting. This guy should be investigated for the fraud that he is.

Comment by Patrick C. — July 17, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
Hey pissed off lefty and kmac-

Retake geology 101

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 10:40 pm
There are two scientific versions of global warming, the media does not print the views of those other scientists….because they think they are right and others with opposing views are wrong.

The moon is moving 1 1/2″ each yr. from the earth, in doing so, our weather is affected…tell me, what can humans do to stop that?

Comment by Barabara C — July 17, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
I'm GREENER THAN GORE!!! It's not difficult, actually.

Comment by Rojaaemon — July 17, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
Oh I get it now. Let's attack Gore for potentially investing in free market developing green technologies, just as T. Boone Pickens and other business leaders have stated they were going to do? This is just smart business sense. Oil will run out one day.

You Repugs can't have it both ways, you know. If the free market demands new technologies instead of petroleum, then that's the way it is. Suck on that!

Comment by Common Sense — July 17, 2008 @ 10:42 pm
You fools!

It's simple. We buy oil from Saudi Arabia. They give it to the Taleban and Al Qaeda.

They train terrorists to kill us and our soldiers.

We must move away from the oil based economy.

Let them eat sand.

WAKE UP!

Comment by Morpheum — July 17, 2008 @ 10:47 pm
PLEASE nominate this CLOWN to be the Democrat VP. Can't wait tokick his butt a second time.

Comment by jr — July 17, 2008 @ 10:47 pm
Patrick C: Please see Post No. 233 above.

Comment by PissedOffLeftie — July 17, 2008 @ 10:52 pm
Gore takes a good idea and makes it extreme. Yes we need to focus on energy security and conservation. Yes we are doing it. Yes we will make a lot of progress. No, Al Gore does not need all the credit for the issue.

It is getting tiring to listen to the man. The game is in play. Time to watch it succeed with great people. Stand aside Al.

Jim Energylover
http://www.4yourcountry.org
http://www.gadgetsforgreen.com

Comment by Jim Bell — July 17, 2008 @ 10:54 pm
We can not kill the Earth no matter what Rev Gore has to say. Start drilling away, let the hummer idle an extra 20 minutes a day & leave a light on. Live your lives people!! WHen the Earth wants us humans gone, it will certainly not be because i didn't replace my light bulbs with CFCs (you'll have to pry my incandescents out of my dying hands). When our human era is up NO ONE will be able to stop it. We are simply guests on this beautiful planet, enjoy your time here, don't fret your life away trying to save something which doesn't need our saving.

Comment by BO Stinks — July 17, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
amazingly, it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that this is in fact not only happening, but a man made happening. those who do not heed the warning will be the ones begging for food and water and help in general when it all falls apart. i feel truly sorry for the generations to come. al is, and always has been right on the mark with this. we tend to make an outcast of those with opinions contrary to the powerful people of the day…history repeats itself over and over in this regard, and this is no different.

Comment by peter — July 17, 2008 @ 10:58 pm
Hey BO Stinks. You made a beautiful statement: "We are simply guests on this beautiful planet." But everything else you say runs contrary to that.

If we're guests, shouldn't we be good stewards of this "beautiful planet?" Does that include being ridiculously wasteful and polluting?

I think there's a disconnect there.

Comment by Rob — July 17, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
"The scientific evidence is overwhelming that Peak Oil and Global Warming are real problems."

Overwhelming ? You have to be kidding me !

"The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming."

Good thing Exxon in making lots of doe, so they can pay 50,000 physicists off !!!

You Kool-Aid drinkers need to wake up and smell what Al Gore is shoveling you !!!

Comment by Pete — July 17, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
Wow pete you must have graduated from high school this year.

Ditch school and watch the history channel. Oh wait you have internet.

TYPE^ Krakatoa, google it……………..

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 11:03 pm
sorry pete i meant peter

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 11:05 pm
How much CO2 is the hummer pumping out in comparison to the naturally occuring forrest fires? Doesn't CO2 feed plant life, which in turn provides us oxygen? We are miniscule in the grand scheme of the environment. Don't fool yourself in that we can effect the climate. Nature controls us, we do not control nature. That's why we check the weather every day!!

Comment by Bo Stinks — July 17, 2008 @ 11:06 pm
Pete:

Let's be correct here: The APSC is not saying that all 50,000 physicists disbelieve in human-induced climate change. As your emails states, it merely says "many of it's members" disbelieve.

There's a HUGE difference, yes?

Comment by Rob — July 17, 2008 @ 11:09 pm
Wake up everyone! Al Gore is right.
I was abducted by aliens last week and they told me exactly the same thing as Al did.

Comment by Steve — July 17, 2008 @ 11:09 pm
Sorry Clark, I didnt mean to insult you with my 9th grade education. I'll make sure the passengers on my aircraft don't know that poignant fact. I don't understand your comment though, and how it is relative to my refusal to accept Al Gore's propaganda fodder ?

Pete

Comment by Pete — July 17, 2008 @ 11:12 pm
In regards to Comment by anamorphicart � July 17, 2008 @ 10:42 pm–What we deserve is to have all you liberal males catch AIDS and your women to be gang raped.

Comment by Harry Johnson — July 17, 2008 @ 11:12 pm
True GW has done a bad job in the PR area! But unlike Clinton and Carter! He did not over throw the Shaw of Iran that then gave the world the radical Islamics! That then bombed American troops on land and sea,that declared war against the west in particular America+Israel! That then supported "terrorists" thru-out the world that hit America (twintowers). That led us into Afganistan,and then Iraq. That was Jimmy peanutman Carter! Also Carter handed over the Panama canal,were now the Red army the communist Chinese now occupy two former US army bases!Yes the commies control the Panama canal now! Clinton used US armed forces at the behest of the EU against Yugoslavia! On the side of the "radical" Islamist that had been given some autonomy from Yugoslavia! After they defeated Islamics that were spreading Islam by the sword!However the Islamics wanted to break off part of Yugoslavia and annex it to the greater Albany!(They had been useing terrorists,tactics against the Yugoslav military for years.) Clinton also had demanded the military wear UN uniforms not US! I do not know if it had ever been full enforced! Clinton also handed over the Long Beach Harbor to the communist Chinese! Were just 1 year earlier 8000 ak47s were found on board one of the many ships that enter the harbor each day!(This quite by accident! They never discovered were they were headed!) Clinton also had money funneled to him from, China in his last a successful bid for the Whitehouse!! These are just SOME of the fine things the demos can take credit for! God forbid they win the presidency and the Whitehouse! They will hand us over to the international body of the UN! We will become the FORMER REPUBLIC of the USA! But they all were fine upright patriotic Americans dare anyone say less of them???

Comment by zack — July 17, 2008 @ 11:12 pm
BO Stinks: With all due respect, you don't get it. To slightly switch your hypothetical: Why should we drive Hummers that pump out as much CO2 as forest fires in the first place? How can you say that the pollution from cars haven't ruined our quality of life in, say, Denver, LA, Houston, Mexico City, etc.?

Even if humans don't cause global climate change, they do cause deforestation, pollution, and kill off biodiversity, etc.

Comment by Mark — July 17, 2008 @ 11:14 pm
pete go to 253

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 11:15 pm
Hey Zack - you're obviously still on your paranoia meds.

Comment by Ralph — July 17, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
"What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" Jesus said, "Take heed that no man deceive you." "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." Matthew 24:5.
Jesus warned of "pestilences" in the last days.
"wars and rumours of wars." Matthew 24:6.
"famines." Matthew 24:7.
"earthquakes in divers places."
"…iniquity shall abound,
Men loving other men and women loving other women doing that which is reprobate

Comment by Roy — July 17, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
Let Gore sell his bull to India and China.

Comment by c'est moi — July 17, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
Al Gore is a Nobel winner and is the inventor of the internet. He is also a complete moron. Global warming is a hoax. If you don't believe it then prove it. Plenty have tried and failed. Use the scientific method when proving it. Don't use scare tactics or try to shift the burden of proof to the status quo. Prove it or STFU. By the way, Al Gore is owned by the Chinese - the biggest polluters on Earth.

Comment by Jim — July 17, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
The only solution is always higher taxes. Then all these taxes will go to pay for all this "green" energy which will be like "green" food–more expensive. The joke here is on all the Americans who are so stupid that think that the governments that we have been electing will use all that tax money for energy production. They will burn this extra income on more government employees and social programs.

Comment by allen antrim — July 17, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
Big, fat Gaseous Al Gore, the blabbermouse of the environmentalist wacko Left, has nothing important to say, except as he draws from the woodwork and makes visible to everyone else the miscellaneous adherents to his nutty theories. He is a crap magnet.

Comment by Osamas Pajamas — July 17, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
And Rob, of course not all 50,000 disbelieve. Lets be honest; most people posting here probably have read that link. The point is the "debate" is far from over. The point is an "organization" that accepted the IPCC's conclusions as a whole, now has "MANY" members that may not concur. That is the difference. Get it ?

Pete

Comment by Pete — July 17, 2008 @ 11:21 pm
Hey (Christian) Roy, if these truly are the Last Days (I've heard that for 40 years), humans sure do deserve what's coming to them — the posts from the right wing crazies here sure prove that.

Comment by Martin — July 17, 2008 @ 11:22 pm
One would think the Republicans to be way out front with an energy policy, given what they preach about self-reliance… Or are we witnessing the Cheney/Halliburton Policy of oil energy dependence?

Comment by bobj — July 17, 2008 @ 11:23 pm
Hey Peter…then you perhaps can explain to the rest why less than one percent of the greenhouse gases are produced by man…and how that is going to doom us all in 10 years. AlGore is in it
the money…and he is playing you like the idiot you are. His film is a sham…and so is he. He is a legend in his own mind.

And, maybe then you can explain how Man-Made Global Warming is causing the Whitney Glacier on Mt Shasta to grow over 30% in the last 50 years? Freaking idiots… a lie believed is still a lie.

Comment by Dakota — July 17, 2008 @ 11:23 pm
Pete, Oh yeah, I get it. But do you?

Comment by Rob — July 17, 2008 @ 11:24 pm
Sorry Clark. I just saw 252; you had me mixed up with someone else.

Pete

Comment by Pete — July 17, 2008 @ 11:25 pm
Considering the amount of hot air coming out of Al Gore, he should declare himself a threat to Global Warming.

Comment by Greg — July 17, 2008 @ 11:26 pm
It's funny how suddenly we are talking about ruining quality of life in the big cities; I thought this discussion was about how we evil humans are killing the poor defenseless Earth. I do not drive a Hummer (i think they are ugly) I have a Jeep and a BMW both 20+MPG, I do not litter, actually help the community pick up roadside litter, do not leav on lights (i don't want to have to pay for the extra energy costs). I used to consider myself an environmentalist until you facist idiots raped the term to more relate an environmentalist to a color or political pary. Back to my point, if my quality of life were that poor in the big cities you speak of, I'd move.

Comment by Bo Stinks — July 17, 2008 @ 11:26 pm
Thank the 537 people of Florida this kook never got elected Prez.

Comment by Sue — July 17, 2008 @ 11:28 pm
Sorry about the comment to vote Gore out of office. Lets just vote him out of the human race

Comment by Rudy — July 17, 2008 @ 11:31 pm
pete I was refering to peter #249

Comment by Clark — July 17, 2008 @ 11:31 pm
Attention: All Al Gore Defenders - put up or shut up. Instead of calling all those who disagree with you ignorant, stupid, or worse, why don't you use FACTS? Or are you totally unfamiliar with them? I would love to see some actual proof of global warming. As the science hasn't been around long enough to do that, global warming cannot be proven with scientific facts. You can't use data for just the last 50 years to prove anything about climate change. It's not enough time to provide an acceptable scientific model. After all climate change has been going on for millions of years. You just can't prove that man has caused any. So get over it.

Comment by ldenton — July 17, 2008 @ 11:32 pm
Mark (post 260)…you've asked and answered the question of the day. Al Gore's nonsense has polarized us and taken our eye off of the ball. Of course it's good to conserve. Of course it's good to "tread lightly". Of course it's good to be custodians of our environment. Of course we should always be seeking and perfecting alternative energy sources.

Unfortunately, this greedy, self-important charlitain has thrown a false argument into the mix, and for some reason, the un-informed line up behind it.

You seem like a free thinker with critical reasoning skills…please take a look at this link: http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm

Add that list to the 30,000 scientists that signed the letter rejecting Global warming in May of this year, and you start to see the writing on the wall.

Lord Gore has taken a noble movement and sullied it horribly for personal gain.

Comment by Tim_CA — July 17, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
The only solution is always to raise taxes. These taxes will go to fund "green" energy and like "green" food it will be more expensive. But the real joke is on us because the government knows now that we want to pay more taxes (people who feel this way may include extra in their tax return while waiting for Uncle Sam to force the rest of us) and energy taxes will fund more than energy, such as more government employees to deal with this new energy and a good opportunity to expand social programs.

Comment by allen antrim — July 17, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
Never fall for the Liberals superior knowledge BS! No one claims they "liberals"are stupid! Just foolish. "Thinking" they are wise they have become "fools"! It is much easier to believe a lie than truth! It always has (for people that lack any real core beliefs!) And the liberal media will "confirm" it for them! Much easier than really asking questions or looking into things yourself! Get a PHD and you can rule the world! In particular if your friends "own" the mass media! And the professor owns the class room! Were they will present ONLY your side! I know I have first hand experience with so-called liberals! Yes liberal to those whom believe as they do, but not to those that disagree!!

Comment by zack — July 17, 2008 @ 11:37 pm
Mark,
I hate to keep picking you apart, but going back to #260, kill off Biodiversity? Are you kidding me? Are you that arrogant or that ignorant, new species are being found every day & nature has a way of repairing, rehealing & perpetuating itself. Please don't buy into it, while it's grat to be a conservationist (I consider myself one) (not a conservative), don't let yourself turn into a mean greenie!!

Comment by Bo Stinks — July 17, 2008 @ 11:43 pm
WOW! When George the RINO Voinovich staggers slightly to the right, something is up! Ohio is somewhat of a coal state; but GV's not even up for reelection until 2011. He must have noticed Gore's propeller beanie!

Comment by Americanus — July 17, 2008 @ 11:51 pm
gore is mentally ill

Comment by gore w hore — July 17, 2008 @ 11:53 pm
Gore should cut down on his OWN energy use. He uses so much at his own house it's not even funny. And has the gall to say he offsets it with BS carbon credits? BALDERDASH!!!

Comment by CosmicmaskedAvenger — July 17, 2008 @ 11:55 pm
Bo Stinks:

Yes, I am that arrogant (or realistically able to acknowledge the obvious). I do believe that humanity has the biggest hand in killing off biodiversity. Humans — through their actions –destroy wildlife habitat at rates never before seen in human history, which leads to the killing off of biodiversity. At this rate, studies show that half of the wildlife that exists today will be gone by the end of the century. Do you really think the planet can regenerate that? Yes, new species are being discovered, but come on. Let's get real.

I think it's ridiculous to not acknowledge the destructive power of humanity when it goes unchecked. (Do you deny that our nukes could destroy this planet many times over if we were pushed beyond the brink in, say, the Cold War? How do you explain that?)

Comment by Mark — July 17, 2008 @ 11:57 pm
Re: Mr. Vander Pol. Why is it that when you disagree with someone on something, e.g. global warming, homosexualism, etc. you are labeled as 'feeling threatened'? I'm not the one with the insecurity.

Comment by Linz — July 18, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Mark,

"Do you really think the planet can regenerate that? Yes, new species are being discovered, but come on. Let's get real." OK, you answered my question, arrogance is your downfall. Let's see, the earth has been around for 4.5 Billion years, endured ice ages, continental plate shifts, pole shifts, warming periods, major asteroid strikes, plauges, fires, volcanos…. i think the Earth will be OK.

Comment by BO Stinks — July 18, 2008 @ 12:01 am
Kudzu (Post #39):

"…If Al Gore had been in the White House, which he won in 2000, our country would not be in this dire mess today."

First of all, Gore WAS in the White House…for eight long years!! I don't recall hearing jack from him during the Clinton years regarding this "state of emergency" we supposedly face. I guess we were too busy bombing Serbia to worry about clean energy.

Secondly, are you still spewing out the 2000 election venom after 8 years?? First, let's drop this "he won" crap, you little crybaby. He didn't win. Gore lost. Period.

I frankly don't care how poor the Florida ballot designs were, how antiquated the voting equipment (or the voters, for that matter), how inconsistent the recount criteria between districts, or how unreasonable the recount time limit (under Florida state law). This was all "on the books" before the election, and both Democrats and Republicans were aware of the rules and the laws and the ballot layouts well in advance. Apparently, neither party took issue with them and approved. Regardless, in this Constitutional land–which provides for a Supreme Court that is the ultimate authority on the Constitutionality of given legislation or legislative measures–the Court's majority spoke clearly (5-4 and 7-2 decisions) about what the state of Florida could and could not legally do. Oh, before you criticize a 5-4 "partisan" decision, let me remind you that a 5-4 edge is the only thing keeping abortion (which you undoubtedly approve of, as do most Gore supporters) federally legalized at this time.

And before you attempt to bring up the popular vote count, the same argument holds. The Electoral College is known and understood by all parties, and they play by those rules. That's why Gore didn't spend much time in Republican strongholds, and why Bush didn't campaign all that much in California.

Good grief.

Comment by Mark T. — July 18, 2008 @ 12:04 am
Hey, Albert (#221):

I'm sorry you do not have a PhD. (Or, PHD as you call it.) However, I must tell you that my daughter works for a global photography and tracking company in Canada and I have seen those pictures that you are counting on as evidence.

However, you have missed a very important aspect of your claim: YOU MUST LOOK AT ALL OF THE PICTURES, NOT MERELY THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWN ON LEFTIST WEB SITES.

You see, if you examine ALL of the pictures, you will see that the opposite sides are GROWING!!! This is due (primarily) to the prevailing winds.

Please, take a preliminary geology class (no PhD necessary, except for the professor, of course) and you will have a much greater understanding of how the world functions and you will not be so easily fooled by the Chicken Little Leftist alarmists (who think that they have the power to change the world). Please, get a grip and GET SOME ACTUAL INFORMATION, NOT MERELY EMOTIONAL CONCLUSIONS THAT ARE BASED ON NONSENSE.

Comment by Margo Granholm-West — July 18, 2008 @ 12:05 am
Bo Stinks

You must trust humanity and its power I don't. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Humans have something that no other species has — the awesome technology to cause unnatural destruction.

Comment by Mark — July 18, 2008 @ 12:06 am
Al better start inventing some big batteries.
In Nevada we call guys like Al. turds.

Comment by dannev — July 18, 2008 @ 12:09 am
Mark,
Cheers!!
Good night

Comment by BO Stinks — July 18, 2008 @ 12:11 am
I love reading this stuff. The pro Gore folks rant and the anti Gore folks quote science. I've voted for about an equal number of Democrats and Rebuplicans, so don't put me in either camp.

However, I am 64 years old and was educted in the scientific method. Note to all - true science is NEVER "settled". Don't you remember that Pluto was a planet for over 500 years?

If science was "settled" then we could close all the science schools in the entire world. Nothing else to be discovered so why study it?

Everybody replaced their lightbulbs with those little "screwy" ones. Each bulb contains enough mercury to polute 6000 gallons of water. If you want to know the truth about them, go to the store and get the 800 number off the back of the package. Call it and ask them what to do if your bulb broke OVER A CARPET.

Worse yet, your refrigerator uses more electricity in a 24 hour period than all the lightbulbs in all the houses on both sides of the street you live on. Folks sure don't bother to get the facts before acting. Light bulbs aren't the problem, motors are.

Windmills work an average of 20% of the time and solar cells work an average of 30% of the time. Don't try to tell me that either of those are going to replace current systems.

I could go on for hours, but you get the idea.

Pick either side of the debate and defend it, but please get some FACTS instead of OPINIONS and SOUND BITES before you commit.

OldGuy Scientist

Comment by OldGuy Scientist — July 18, 2008 @ 12:12 am
Dannev: "Turds"? Really? That's some top notch, intelligent Nevada creativity.

Comment by Jason — July 18, 2008 @ 12:12 am
Think of all of the cars, trucks, boats, planes, motocycles, trains, helicopters, miltary equiptment, etc. that run on oil based fuel. Does Al Gore think we can replace all this stuff within ten years?

Comment by Lou — July 18, 2008 @ 12:16 am
BO Stinks

Cheers back! I'm outta here too.

Comment by Mark — July 18, 2008 @ 12:18 am
OldGuy Scientist….Excellent points all. I'd just add to the mix….don't let the partisan nonsense from either side cloud your ability to think critically…and ALWAYS follow the money (partisan grants have perverted science in this country).

Cheers!

Comment by Tim_CA — July 18, 2008 @ 12:20 am
Hope you tree-hugging sheep lovers sleep peacefully this evening dreaming of chocolate rivers and candycane highways.
I'll sleep peacefully knowing that I am protected by the best military in the world. Supported by true Americans.
Not Clintons, Gores, Obammas, Pelosis,Reids or any of the cancerious maggot liberals that never did anything on their own. (You are all on the take and someday the sheep may wake up) Only to eat you like the wolves you are.

Comment by Clark — July 18, 2008 @ 12:29 am
As soon as good old Al goes completely off the grid and totally non carbon, I'll throw in with him. Until then, he can pound sand. Can't wait to see his solar powered jet.

Comment by ffishmonger — July 18, 2008 @ 12:29 am
Its time to test Al Gore's dedication to his own ideology. Limit his consumption of fossil fuel to what the average American uses in a month and let him make up the difference using all the technologies he named. We can even let him write the expense off on his taxes! Does any one in his right mind think that Al Gore could possibly succeed in this? Al Gore is asking us to give it all up on his say so yet he offer nothing. I for one think that taking away Al's fossil fuels would be one of the best things that could happen!!

Comment by Weldon — July 18, 2008 @ 12:35 am
Everyone knows Al Gore invented the internet - now we know he also invented Global Warming.

Comment by bill — July 18, 2008 @ 12:36 am
Al Gore is running a great scam. And it looks like either of the two choices for Prez have bought into the scam.
If we dont take on a multiple approach to this problem , then we deserve the results of this folly.
Drill her drill now, and then begin a comprehensive plan to perfect alternates to our current energy sources
You cannot change or convert all transportation in 10 years to solar or ???? If we do not get our own oil supply by then , we will destroy the future economy an the future of our children.
Don -Oregon

Comment by don self — July 18, 2008 @ 12:37 am
So, Clark, only people who believe like you are "true Americans"? The irony of that very thought must escape you. (BTW, liberals also think the US military is the best in the world. We just think it should be utilized in more beneficial ways rather than in the folly of Bush/Cheney nation-building.)

Comment by Joseph — July 18, 2008 @ 12:38 am
Those who still believe that the global warming is supported by science to to Drudge Report and click on "Group repping 50000 physicists opens global warming debate".

Comment by Ted — July 18, 2008 @ 12:38 am
It global warming is human caused, let us go to the heart of the problem and eliminate man. Global warming advocates certainly can't claim this solution is worse than the alternative they keep tell is coming. We have the technology to do this now. Reducing green house gas emissions by 50% is not a problem. And if you select Democrats as the 50%, then a 98% reduction in whining and a 30% boost in average US IQ is icing on the cake.

Comment by Liquidity — July 18, 2008 @ 12:41 am
Joseph,
pull your head out of your ass.
Go watch team america a few times……….

Comment by Clark — July 18, 2008 @ 12:44 am
Clark, you're a clown.

Comment by Joseph — July 18, 2008 @ 12:53 am
Al Gore and his hot air speeches are the only thing causing man-made global warming. This whole thing is a big joke. I am all for reducing emissions but the idea that man is causing the earth's temperature to rise is RIDICULOUS! There is no proof at all for man-made global warming; just like evolution…it is a fairy tale for grown ups.
Al gore needs to get a life and start doing something worthwhile rather than trying to scare people with this modern day myth.

Comment by Eric the Read — July 18, 2008 @ 12:55 am
Sen. George Voinovich is a CLOWN.

Jokers like this get news coverage ?

Who cares about these Republican jokers anyway?

Comment by Jay B — July 18, 2008 @ 12:55 am
Just for the sake of argument, let's assume that global warming is real and it is human induced. You people on the right would still refuse to believe it. Let's be honest, here. You people hate the messenger so much (as much as at least 70% of the US can't stand Bush at this point) that it would cloud your judgment.

So this blog "debate" is really just a waste of time for everybody. There's no convincing going on here. Just posturing.

Comment by Alex — July 18, 2008 @ 12:56 am
GORE'S SOLUTIONS PUT MONEY IN HIS POCKET AND TAKES MORE MONEY OUT OF OURS! MEANWHILE HE LIVES AND TRAVELS LIKE A KING.

Comment by sunshine — July 18, 2008 @ 12:57 am
Joseph,
You may be good American, But Your Democratic party sucks.
America needs only ONE party. No Bipartisan BS.

Best policy right now would be to turn IRAN INTO A PLATE OF GLASS….. BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMNMM

Comment by Clark — July 18, 2008 @ 1:00 am
To all you people talking about Gore's emphasis on the global warming "hoax." Did you read the text of today's speech at all? By my very unofficial count, it appears that he mentioned "global warming pollution" ONLY ONCE in the entire speech! The rest of it concerned finding renewable energy sources. Is that so wrong? Naysayers don't say it can't be done, they just don't want it to be even tried.

Comment by Lee — July 18, 2008 @ 1:04 am
neocons quoting science… are you kidding?!
if you google peak oil, global warming
you'll find what you want to find
somethink both are myths designed to jack up prices… funny when we've spent a few trillion dollars and thousands of lives to get at oil.
who can be objective?
the rabid ones are clearly more represented by the right, as usual. most everyone here has taken gore's entire speech and turned it into a sentence or two like cheesy high school gossip.

funny how you always see a flag or a support the troops ribbon alongside a bush sticker on someone's over-sized suv. to really be patriotic you would sell your hummer or whatever gas hog you got because you understood the more gas you burned the more blood money was paid.

the right sound and act like the most self-centered selfish people on earth, like the tedious toddler MINE MINE MINE.

BTW, jesus was a liberal, as were the founding fathers, as was anyone who pressed for progress, for a change, for the better. so liberal is not a dirty word. it is a word people are trying to misrepresent. this election is a clear choice between love vs lust. love is for all, lust is for self and ultimately pointless, yet that's all the right can understand, a live lived in greed and fear. it's sickening.

Comment by taldutronc — July 18, 2008 @ 1:06 am
Clark, you may be a clown but your are so not even worth the effort.

Comment by Joseph — July 18, 2008 @ 1:06 am
taldutronc — Word!

Comment by Joseph — July 18, 2008 @ 1:09 am
Come on people—take a real look at Al "Snake Oil" Gore. The man is a total hypocrite when he uses enough electricity for 200 average homes and flys in a gas guzzling jet. I like honest environmentalist but cannot stand frauds and Al gore is one just like Arnold who flys to work over an hour per day but tells us to take a bus or ride a bike. How much longer are you going to support these horrible frauds?

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 1:11 am
Joseph,
Come on Joe, school sucks dont drop out…… If you study hard and read you can learn about all the crap you are being fed.
Better yet drop out and go work at starbucks

Comment by Clark — July 18, 2008 @ 1:12 am
WE NEED MORE SENATORS WHO HAVE BALLS TO STAND UP AGAINST THESE DIRT BALL DEMOCRATS IN WASHINGTON!!!

Comment by Common Sense — July 18, 2008 @ 1:13 am
Al Gore's credentials on the science of global warming are highly suspect. It's a bit like a business management expert trying to kibitz on a project involving quantum physics. Few, especially those with less than sterling performance in educational backgounds such as law and divinity studies will have the abilty to understand the nuances and significance of these complex methematical relationships. Combined with the consumptive lifestyle many of these environmental champions live (the equivalent of 10+ middle class families) it is hard to take these folks seriously on any issue, let alone one as complex as the environment. It would be highly interesting to see Al Gore debate someone who is not a believer in GW!

With that said. It makes sense to be good stewards on our planet, including wise use of our resources, especially energy. Draconian solutions imposed by governmental force are not a good, unless one wants to muck it up more. Both parties seem intent on using emergencies to get elected, not to solve the problems rationally.

Solving the energy problem is likely to require the use of multiple approaches. No one alone will work. It will require tapping into our energy reserves (yes drilling and use of coal), it will require conservation (we as a public are wasteful and often quite ignorant of how our lifestyle consumes the precious resources); it will require the use of nuclear, wind and solar energy, though it will take time to phase them in. There are other alternate forms (fuels cells, …) of energy that are developed, but too few of the decision makers understand that you cannot wave a magic wand over the science and make it happen overnight (back to the quantum physics argument again).

Oil is a necessary component if we all wish to have a good economy (i.e. jobs and a modern lifestyle with some comfort). Domestic oil would help us strengthen the dollar and perhaps head off the continued foreign takeovers of our businesses. Moreover, oil will be necessary to hold us over until the alternate sources are more viable.

It would be nice if the politicians would quit pandering and frightening their constituents and get to work solving these problems rationally. using facts. Like many of the arguments supporting Al Gore, there is a lot of crystal ball speculation and emotion in their arguments and precious little fact (at best speculative argument). Understanding the risk-benefit approach to decision making is probably entirely too much to ask, but one can dream….

Comment by dmac — July 18, 2008 @ 1:16 am
You people make me laugh. All you folks do is criticize a man who has been on the correct side of most issues, yet you make fun of him. Quite frankly, you right wing nuts make me sick. You got what you wanted a president who can't string two grammatically correct sentences together at the same time. Yet you laugh at a man that should have been president. Go ahead, have a beer with George, that is why you voted for him. I rather vote for a president that will do his job. Anyone who voted twice for George Bush is complete looser and should be banned from voting for life.

Let's see, all us RIGHT WING NUTS do is LAUGH and CRITICIZE a man that is on the CORRECT side of the issues. But it's because we wanted to have a beer with a man that couldn't string two grammatically correct sentences togther? And, if we voted for Bush, we should be banned from voting ever again? Will this be how it is in the Socialist regime you dream about?
Are you so liberal that you cannot see your own hypocrisy? One thing I've learned about Liberals– they ain't!

Comment by wOzerd — July 18, 2008 @ 1:16 am
Clark — I'm a little past high school. I'm a 44 year-old lawyer, you clown.

Comment by Joseph — July 18, 2008 @ 1:17 am
I don't understand why liberals listen to this nitwit. If he really believed this nonsense, why would he burn $20,000 of electricity a year?

Attempted suicide?

Comment by Jerry — July 18, 2008 @ 1:18 am
Al Gore proves global warming like he recounts Florida votes: only in the districts where he can pick up some votes - other facts are not welcome.

Comment by Geoff — July 18, 2008 @ 1:22 am
joseph,
That's fantastic your a bricklayer, I too am a mason. Except I do stone work……….

Comment by Clark — July 18, 2008 @ 1:23 am
Viscount Monckton gives a presentation during the 2007 Conference on Climate Change"Considerable presence" of skeptics

The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming. The APS is also sponsoring public debate on the validity of global warming science. The leadership of the society had previously called the evidence for global warming "incontrovertible."

In a posting to the APS forum, editor Jeffrey Marque explains,"There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution."

Of course ALgore is waaay smarter than these guys

Comment by wOzerd — July 18, 2008 @ 1:24 am
Let me see if I get this straight: If Gore, a millionaire, is a hypocrite for living the life of a millionaire, we shouldn't listen to him because of that? Is that your only argument? Does his alleged hypocricy cancel out his message, his quest to aid in the discovery of alternative energy sources, or his effort to preserve the environment by using his political stature? (And let's be fair, when it was unveiled how "ungreen" he supposedly was, didn't he take immediate steps to minimize his "global footprint"?)

I'm not so childish as to close my mind to a man's message simply because he may not be the best embodiment of the perfect environmentalist. Who's perfect on this mark? The point is — if you feel so compelled — is to try.

Comment by Nate — July 18, 2008 @ 1:29 am
I, for one, have stopped all political and environmental action donations and environmental magazine subscriptions. This includes Mother Earth News after 35 years as a faithful subscriber. Why pay for relentless, mind numbing Climate Change propaganda. We receive plenty from the media for free. I have asked all these outright liars and hucksters to take me out of their databases permanently.

We need to put the whole Climate Change issue into perspective vis-a-vis the Peak Oil Crisis. Everyone needs to ask themselves, their associates, all sitting elected officials and those seeking office, especially the office of President of the United States, "What is more threatening in both the long and short terms, a beneficial 1 degree F rise in average world temperatures over the past 100 years, or a 1 percent decline in world oil production over the last 100 weeks - with steepening declines forecast? Furthermore, can our economy better deal with declining fuel inventories in an environment of persistent warming, or in an environment of declining average temperatures over the next several decades, the most likely scenario given the highly reliable solar inertial motion (SIM) model forecasts of climate change?� Solar cycle # 24 will tell the tale. The problem is not AGW. The real problem is the end of cyclical warming coincident with the onset of Peak Oil. And, the critical question is who has provided Al Gore with $300,000,000 to convince all of us that we are personally responsible for Global Warming. Someone is expecting a big payoff. Perhaps it�s http://www.chicagoclimatex.com .

Comment by John A. Jauregui — July 18, 2008 @ 1:37 am
Gore will get lots of global warming if he spends eternity in the "lake of fire". And since all unrepentent habitual liars end up their, he should reconsider "gaining the whole world and losing his soul."

Comment by RS — July 18, 2008 @ 1:41 am
I can't afford gas to get to work. Solution: I'll buy a new hybrid car for what, $30K? Yes, I'll have that all paid off in 10-15 years. Thanks, Al. By the way, if it's so important to save energy, why doesn't he hitchhike around the world AND buy carbon offsets? Oh, I forgot, only the little people have to sacrifice. Obama too, he sacrifices not a bit but tells us we have to reduce our standard of living because other countries won't like it.

Comment by LC — July 18, 2008 @ 1:43 am
Funny how a guy loses a race has an insane fit on stage and then decides to get his revenge. Like a mad scientist quoting pseudoscience and making everyone pay. I feel sorry for all the people who believe his tripe. Hey great make renewable energy sources have at it. However when you start falling for his ideas to make himself a trillionaire you're officially a sheeple. Global warming is a lie and if you fall for it….

Comment by Steve — July 18, 2008 @ 1:53 am
I love the rush to nuclear!

All you need is one screwup… just one and the area becomes a radioactive desert for 10,000 years.

and what would you do with the waste these power plants produce?

Nuclear is not a solution! Sorry Republicans

Comment by Brian — July 18, 2008 @ 1:57 am
"WE NEED MORE SENATORS WHO HAVE BALLS TO STAND UP AGAINST THESE DIRT BALL DEMOCRATS IN WASHINGTON!!!"

as opposed to the Dirt Ball Republicans that were in Washington before them.

This issue is bigger than left wing and right wing

Grow UP!

Comment by Brian — July 18, 2008 @ 2:00 am
Any time a salesman tried to stampede you into a quick buying decision there is usually something to beware. 10 years? Didn't Ted Dansen say we would all be dead in 10 years back in 1990? Beware Al Gore the flim-flam man.

Comment by Calvin — July 18, 2008 @ 2:12 am
polar cities. two words. google.

Comment by Danny Bloom — July 18, 2008 @ 2:17 am
so much petty bullshit. amazing. it's hard to believe so many so here are brainwashed and dumb. i guess it's anger and denial, years of living sad pointless lives, wanting more more more, thinking it will fill the void. whatever. it won't. and this is tiresome. i'm not going to bother anymore. i just wish all these morons who crave oil and deny humans affect their environment would actually fight for their own oil and live in their own garbage.

it's absurd some people even claim gore is after their money when bush has proven to be the master of stealing from the people and giving to the elite. bush and his supporters show their short-sightedness in every word and deed.

in the end though, crooks and pigs have no place in the land of the free and the home of the brave. it's what the revolution was all about, but now we got king george all over again. and today the neocons have become the insane inbred evil monarchy.

and LC, or should i say, dumbass, if everyone had a hybrid we'd all have more gas, it's about doing your part to lower demand. conserving. imagine every car getting 38 mpg rather than 22 as it is today, oh wait that was jimmy carter's his last cafe standard for 1995 set in the late 70s. too bad reagan got eased the cafe standards that the auto industry was already meeting. and because of reagan easing off on the u.s. auto industry it is now on the brink of dying off because they are so far behind.

can't anyone see what's happening?! history may not repeat but it sure rhymes… hoover, a republican, the great depression, a huge supporter of prohibition, bush…

Comment by taldutronc — July 18, 2008 @ 2:21 am
taldutronc — wise words. Glad I'm not the only one who feels the way you do.

Comment by Nate — July 18, 2008 @ 2:24 am
Gore's list of approved energy sources–solar, wind, geothermal–is extremely limited.

Where's hydro? Where's nuclear? Both of these are non-carbon.

The green groups hate hydroelectric dams and nuclear power plants, and Gore is a greenie first, climate campaigner second.

Comment by Jim — July 18, 2008 @ 2:46 am
I find it refreshing that a national figure is proposing a goal that will require Americans to sacrifice the comfort of routine for the well-being of future generations. I was disappointed that President Bush did not take the opportunity to do so at his latest press conference, where he would not ask the American people to conserve. His concern of having a "sweater" moment in the mold of President Carter is politically sound, but in doing the opposite he appeared just as out of touch to me.

Branding Mr. Gore as a hypocrite for his energy consumption, as accurate as it may be, is a cop-out for those who do not want to engage in substantive debate in the underlying issue. America has an opportunity to be a world leader in the most virtuous sense, and the problems surrounding carbon-based fuels can be rendered terminal if we devote our innovation and drive to the cause.

"Going green" is not limited to hybrid cars and windmills; all across the heartland, farmers are realizing big savings by investing in geothermal technology with the assistance of USDA grants (for which, admittedly, the Bush administration deserves credit).

We can do more, and we should. With any luck, ten years from now we can all share in the satisfaction of knowing we changed the world for the beter.

Comment by Matt — July 18, 2008 @ 2:48 am
OldGuy Scientist (#288):

WHERE IN THE "WORLD" DO YOU GET YOUR NUTTY INFORMATION????

YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT PLUTO WAS A PLANET FOR OVER 500 YEARS??

I have spoken WITH THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED PLUTO, so how old does that make me???? I guess a whole lot older than you.

PLEASE, MR. SCIENTIST (OLD OR YOUNG) READ A BOOK!

Incidentally, I have two good friends (PhD's who teach geology) and even THEY don't even call themselves "scientists," merely professors of science. I have (evidently) taken many more science classes than you have, yet I would never in the world call myself a "scientist." What nonsense!

As for "science" never being settled, you have watched way too many episodes of Star Trek. There are MANY areas of "science" that are considered settled; or else we would not be able to build on established knowledge.

Judas Priest!!!

Comment by Margo Granholm-West — July 18, 2008 @ 2:50 am
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Pingback by Al Gore’s Energy Speech ‘Ridiculous’ « Right on Demand — July 18, 2008 @ 3:11 am
As one of my fellow engineers put it, isn't this as simple as a child's science fair project to establish if there is any truth in Gore's hypothesis? Note, you can't claim it as A THEORY. It is not even close to being accepted as fact with the evidence that has been gathered thus far.

So how about if you take a container, establish a controlled heat source - light bulb though more accuracy is probably desired. You then monitor the temperature through the top and sides of the container until you reach stability of an inert atmosphere - N2 or some N2/O2 mix but without CO2. For better accuracy, you might wish to instead measure pressure as, per the ideal gas law, one can argue that pressure and temperature should move in unison with a change in pressure being easier to record.

You then hook up a CO2 source and put in a controlled amount of CO2 at say roughly 200 parts per million (since this is the amount that the global warmers sometimes argue is acceptable). You continue to monitor temperature at the top and sides of the container until stability is reached and record. You then add more CO2 to some amount closer to the global warmers' concern - say 350 or 400 ppm. You again allow temperature to stabilize and measure the change. The global warmers would argue that the change should be noticeable with some drop occurring at the top of the container and some increase instead about the sides (due to some CO2 dispersion of heat back toward the bottom of the box, i.e. earth's surface).

If there is no clear evidence of this change, then perhaps you start adding CO2 until you record a noticeable difference. What is that value? I don't know. I haven't run the experiment for myself but I would think the global warmers have run it multiple times. So ignoring the computer models, what do the results of a simple test like this show? If nothing, perhaps you then change the gas that's introduced to…how about water vapor? Ooooh. That could be interesting.

In any event, there was a time when our elementary and high school science classes taught us how to test a hypothesis in an attempt to establish it as theory. Why don't the kids and young adults of today do the same? It seems an all-too-obvious test that should be performed. Has the education that once promoted the sciences and critical thought so failed us that, in the millions of students out there, no one has tested Gore's argument? Remember, we're talking about another one of those leaders (trained in something other than science) that was at best a C, maybe D, student.

Now if the global warmers wish instead to revise their argument to talk about the effects of man with regards to pollutants, creating localized heat sources and sinks, dispersing more water vapor into the atmosphere due to the chemical balance of burning fossil fuels and the like, you have my attention. But heating up the entire planet because we somehow added some few molecules of CO2 to the atmosphere? Prove your hypothesis by starting with a simple experiment.

And if you're right, why isn't planting more trees a good way to help resolve the issue? There was another class where I seem to recall a symbiosis between animal and plant life forms. One took in O2 and gave off CO2 and the other took in CO2 and gave off O2. Pretty cool the way that works out.

Did anyone ever tell you that your discussions are absolutely bringing the engineering community in this country to tears? We're all just about ready to quit, go sit on a stoop somewhere and pickly our brains like the rest of you. As I've told my children, perhaps the toughest thing in life to deal with is being born with significantly more intellect than the average. Forcefully being asked to stoop to their levels of competence on a daily basis can absolutely wear you out! Just looking at all the smiling faces, life seems more fun if you actually grow up on the downside of that distribution.

Comment by Dan — July 18, 2008 @ 3:12 am
When someone can predict the weather accurately more than 3 or 4 days in advance, on a regular basis, then I might reconsider my utter disbelief in the Global Warming scam.

Fancy science explanations don't impress me. Neither do inexperienced college aged kids who want to scream at me to change my consumption habbits.

I prefer to use my five senses and some common sense as opposed to fear mongering and freaking out.

Think about it: if all the meteoroligists in the world can barely give me an educated guess at the weather pattern for the next 5 days, then no one sure as hell knows what it's going to do in the long run.

Either find a way to disprove this simple, no PHD required statement of fact, or shut up and just go change your own damn way of life- It's my perogative to keep driving my V8 Titan truck and I can keep paying $100 bucks a tank to fill it up if I so desire.

If you can't follow that concept, open your nearest dictionary and look up the word "freedom". Then go to the library and study US History so you can beging to realize the real name for your agenda. It's called Socialism.

And no…it still doesn't work.

Comment by Jim Price — July 18, 2008 @ 3:17 am
Global warming is a hoax folks.

Comment by sudmuf — July 18, 2008 @ 3:39 am
How much money will Al Gore make if his challenge is carried out?

I read he has made $100 million on global warming so far, from his movie to speaking fees to investments. Very fishy if you ask me.

Comment by Ross — July 18, 2008 @ 3:39 am
Comment by taldutronc � July 18, 2008 @ 2:21 am

"it's absurd some people even claim gore is after their money when bush has proven to be the master of stealing from the people and giving to the elite."

Al Gore's position as head of THE largest "Carbon Credits" company virtually assures that he will be one of the wealthiest men in the world in the near future. Don't talk to us about Bush; Gore has devised the near-perfect scam. He certainly didn't invent the internet, but he pretty much invented the crisis through which he will become a very rich man.

Comment by Michael Schmidtman — July 18, 2008 @ 3:42 am
Gore is only making metters worse for the global warming cause due to the fact the he is heavily invested in money making ventures by the non-carbon based companies. This taints everything he has to say about the problem with the heavy odor self-interest.

Comment by Susan — July 18, 2008 @ 3:47 am
Voinovich and his ilk ought to keep their traps shut — they've been stonewalling any kind of action since global warming became apparent. They aren't fit to shine Gore's shoes.

Comment by Ed — July 18, 2008 @ 3:55 am
It is truely ashame that we can't or willn't focus the awesome winds generated by the politicans in Congress and the White House to generate power. If we could, we could meet our needs and the needs of the world just off the air coming from D.C.

Folks remember Nixon's war for energy independence? Petroleum engineers and futurist I know have been writing about and expressing concerns about what we are experience since 1954.

If you don't learn from the past you are doomed eternally to repeat it.

Comment by rick williams — July 18, 2008 @ 4:28 am
How sincere is Al Gore? Lets see: HOUSE # 1: A 20-room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house all heated by gas. In ONE MONTH ALONE this mansion consumes more energy than the average American household in an ENTIRE YEAR. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2,400.00 per month. In natural gas alone (which last time we checked was a fossil fuel), this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home.

HOUSE # 2: This house incorporates every �green� feature current home construction can provide. The house contains 4 bedrooms and is nestled on arid high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water heats the house in winter and cools it in summer. The system uses no fossil fuels (no oil or natural gas), and it consumes 25% of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house.

HOUSE # 1 (20 room energy guzzling mansion) is Al Gore��s.
HOUSE # 2 (model eco-friendly house) is on a ranch near Crawford, Texas & it is the home of President George W. Bush.

Comment by Fred X — July 18, 2008 @ 4:30 am
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Al Gore is getting out of control. Voinovich is correct in calling his rantings ridiculous. Can you imagine Al Gore as our president? I hate to think about what might have been, had he succeeded in stealing the election. Gore really needs to be sent to a mental hospital to treat his paranoid delusions. Anyone who believes Al Gore needs their head examined too.

Comment by Ryan R — July 18, 2008 @ 4:36 am
The dollar slow motion collapse will continue unabated until we cry uncle and tap out. The pain level will be ratcheted up by reality until the global warming princesses will give up on their religion.

Comment by Vivid Unicorn — July 18, 2008 @ 4:37 am
Opinions are like …well I've got another one.

If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem.

You local friendly Navy department has been studying how to conduct naval warfare in an ice free artic ocean for the last four years–look it up in the Annals of Naval Warfare published by the Navy department.

Everyone and everything is inter-related. I personally wish the Titan pickup drivers of this "country" (it is a disorganized leaderless mess now) would stop using so much of my gas and polluting so much of the air I breathe. If you don't, I hope you run out of gas, electicity, food, water and get to live your arrogant lives in the total isolation you are so long to achieve living in the environmental mess you are creating.

I don't mind divergent opinions but it is time we start pulling together in an organized way the way we did in World War II (hopefully you weren't inhaling exhaust fumes that day and were paying attention in class).

Comment by rick williams — July 18, 2008 @ 4:42 am
I've read carefully all of the opinions rendered in this collection.

Folks all most of you do is attack you never offer solutions. If you don't think there is right now a problem of significance, I don't know were your mind is but it maybe irreplaceably lost. Once again, if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem.

Comment by rick williams — July 18, 2008 @ 4:57 am
To rick williams, so you want people to basically starve? This is socialisms' heavy hand. Next thing you know, libs will want our guns. I have "hope" your ilk will lose this round.

Comment by KansasGirl — July 18, 2008 @ 5:10 am
this comments board makes me fear for the upcoming election. honestly there is something wrong with you guys.

Comment by emnacstac — July 18, 2008 @ 5:38 am
Because liberals always take my money to squander on something that never works, I got even and stole the $1200 rebate check from my neighbor's mailbox and bought them $1200 of carbon credits. Their little terrapass sticker came and they proudly put it on their car! (So far, they think they got it by mistake. I know they won't send it back …) When they figure out that their rebate check paid for it, each will suspect the other of doing it. What fun!

Comment by Mike M — July 18, 2008 @ 5:44 am
As a long suffering Buckeye, it is nice to see that RINO Georgie Boy finally gets something straight. Amazing!

Comment by ursa major — July 18, 2008 @ 5:45 am
If silly Gore will downsize his life to bare minimum to live and shun all that is polluting, unrecyclable, and is completely carbon free in all his actions, call for the world shut down the real polluters, India and China from their abuse of resources, fuel waste and trash, without buying credit to abuse more on their ways to industrial power,.. He might have a valid point.. but he hasn't, can't and won't in all this time since he began wailing his sad song of woe, with no significant country actually showing this is possible.

Comment by gumball — July 18, 2008 @ 5:47 am
Almost all plants have been proven to do much better with far more CO2 in the air than there is now. So… can someone explain to me how restricting CO2 is called 'green'?

Comment by Mike M — July 18, 2008 @ 5:56 am
Let's see. Did Gore inhale?

Comment by Marty — July 18, 2008 @ 6:01 am
Al Gore should get his own house in order before he lectures to anybody else. According to public records his mansion in Tennessee uses 220 times more kilowatt hours electricity than the average American home. Talk about a hypocrit!

Comment by GEORGE — July 18, 2008 @ 6:19 am
Al Gore is still the pompous, self-righteous, smarmy twit he's always been. Just richer from his exploitation of climate change. From what I see, he's not exactly putting his money where his mouth is. If he did, he might command more respect. Someone described him as a snake oil salesman….seems appropriate.

Comment by Glennis — July 18, 2008 @ 6:29 am
Just give him some candy and don't make eye contact and maybe he'll find his back to the little yellow bus he walked off of.

Btw do you guys think that Dan Quayle is somewhere smiling saying at least all i did was misspell potato.

Comment by BlueC — July 18, 2008 @ 6:37 am
Sorry, but besides the fact that Al is a complete butthead, has anyone checked into how much money he will be making once he has everyone scared into believing his global warming scam?

Comment by Michele — July 18, 2008 @ 6:41 am
"Does no one ever read any science literature? It has been known since the 50's that oil is not a fossil fuel. It is created from calcium carbonate, ferrous oxide and water, under extreme pressure and temperature, in the bowels of the earth. We will run short of enough for our needs - but we will never run out entirely. It is a renewable resource in the same respect as geothermal energy. See:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3952
Drill now and drill everywhere!!!

Comment by Chuck � July 17, 2008 @ 4:31 pm "

Thanks Chuck for the link. I have been trying to explain this to people forever. The belief that we "will run out" is ridiculous. We also have 3 times more oil on US property than Saudi Arabia. We are the only country that does not use it's own resources. It is ridiculous. Do you think when we acquired Alaska a bunch of politicians were sitting around and said, "Hey I have an idea, let's add Alaska as a state, then we will just pay people to live there, it has a lot of oil and stuff but we won't touch that. And the people that live there will want to put food on the table by drilling but we won't let that happen." Give me a break.

And to Mike M. Yes C02 is a necessary gas which causes photosythesis which is the process than provide plants and vegetation to produce chloraphyll that makes them green. Vegetation, cools the earth. So how could a vital gas like CO2 cause global warming? Beats the hell out of me. Anyone who actually remember thier 3rd grade science class would know that this global warming farse is complete nonsense.

Fortunatley, most people are sick of having bs shoved down thier throats and this will eventually bite Al Gore and a lot of politicians in the rear. This is the biggest brainwashing, and propaganda campaign since Hitler convinced Germany that it was a good idea to have a holocaust.

Comment by Aaron H — July 18, 2008 @ 6:42 am
can someone please tell me how wind power is going to power my car ?

Comment by mike g — July 18, 2008 @ 6:44 am
This blog and comments thread sounds like a paranoid Republican love fest. Forget global warming. I thought you guys would be open to the idea of halting the money flow to the Middle East. We're paying the Saudis for that oil that you are putting in your cars. So global warming or not, this is a much needed Manhattan project.

Comment by KR — July 18, 2008 @ 6:45 am
With oil exploration occurring deeper and deeper, why do we insist upon calling it "fossil fuels?" Any geologist/paleontologist worth his/her salts will tell you there are no plant/animal remains 5-10 miles down into the earth. The oil discovered in Pennsylvania was fossil fuel. Where, oh where could it be coming from??? Perhaps we're not about to run out. Perhaps this flaming ball of chaos we live on called Earth, makes more and more of it each day (see volcano/geyser/lava etc…). And the Carbon offset question of the day: Somebody tell me how much CO2 is in the atmosphere and whether or not plants thrive or die from excess CO2? If you can answer these questions, you can stop being afraid of global warming.

Comment by Dr. Common Sense — July 18, 2008 @ 6:51 am
McCain's call for 45 new nuclear plants is the only thing that makes sense. They have small physical footprints and zero CO2 emissions. Alternative sources are a vital part of the grid, but they cannot sustain the energy needs of this country. A few ageing nuclear plants in California contribute something like 20% of the state's needs. And they don't require thousands of acres of solar panels or wind turbines — both of which have their own unique environmental difficulties.

Comment by T Foreman — July 18, 2008 @ 6:54 am
Have you considered the total upheaval that would occur IF and when an alternative source of fuel is generated? EVERY car, bus, plane, train would have to be junked for the "new" fuel. Are we prepared to make this financial investment in a solution that is disputed by thousands of scientists who don't even agree with global warming. We have the solution NOW. Drill for our own oil, on our own land, NOW and use it to fill up our cars, buses, trucks, that all run on oil, the fuel we have in abundance but the Dems won't let us get it. Harry Reid called it "dirty". Pelosi is a complete fool who is speaker of the house. What have we come to? Where is the common sense in this idiocy of these pipe dreams the Dems keep dreaming up and the solution is so obvious. I am baffled by the complete abandonment of common sense of the Democrat party.

Comment by Richard Terrell — July 18, 2008 @ 6:57 am
Wait a minute! Al Gore must be right because he invoked the name and single worthy deed of that martyrd american icon, John "Bay of Pigs" Kennedy (peace be on him). Any time any Democrat calls upon the spirit of the greatest womanizing president this world has ever known, whatever nutball, hairbrained, knuckle headed scheme accompanies that name is instantly legitimized! Kennedy was interred with a pair of Marilyn Monroe's panties in his shirt pocket for heaven's sake! So when Al says oil can be dispensed with in ten years, and invokes the power of Kennedy through the famed "we will land a man on the moon" line, it will be done!

Comment by Derf — July 18, 2008 @ 6:58 am
Al Gore is demented and devilish. Wind driven turbines only work when there is a constant wind which rarely if ever occurs anywhere in America. Solar power works when the clouds do not obscure the sun and they certainly need a permanent alternative backup for the vast majority of time when wind and solar do not work to generate the needed energy. Nuclear is a reliable source but still has the radioactive waste to be stored once it is spent in producing energy but it is a consistent and proven source of energy.

We need an intelligent and reliable transition to increased use of these sources of energy. It is obvious that the great liar and hypocrite Al Gore and his Democrat crime syndicate only want to rush us to disaster and higher taxes with lower results. For Al we might even need to return to old fashioned outhouses and kerosene lamps - oops maybe the Amish and Mennonite communities like Al's vision of energy but Al needs a horse to travel on and he needs his plane grounded and no more cars, electricity, or heat during the winter. Someone should tell Tipper Gore she has to do dishes by hand and draw the bath water from a hand pump and heat it on a pot belly stove.

Al Gore is insane and should never have been awarded the Nobel Peace prize unless you remember that Mr. Nobel created the award out of fear and guilt since he invented TNT and had killed thousands of people with his inventions. Just like Al Gore will do with his backward minded and downright dumb demands to return us to the age of cavemen! Al - shut your face. Your ideas stink and prove you are a spend and tax and destroy politician.

Comment by Arne Hansen — July 18, 2008 @ 7:00 am
Al Gore is wacked out of his freakin mind. It is truly unfortunate that he received the Nobel Prize over Irena Sendler, a 97-year-old Polish woman who saved 2,500 Jewish children from certain death in the Warsaw ghetto during World War II. Shame on him for accepting. Al Gore is the true hypocrite (I think his picture is next to the word in the dictionary.) Science shows that the planet termperature has not risen in the last 10 years! drill4oil.us
Drill now drill often!!

Comment by Eldridge Cleever — July 18, 2008 @ 7:20 am
We still need carbon based fuel in the near future. If we had alternative fuels today, how long would it take to retrofit existing automobiles? Global Warming is a money maker because there are enough fools out there that want to believe. The Church of Gore and his followers have proven nothing of substance, and everyday more and more experts disagree with him. I agree we have to conserve and explore alternatives but it will take time. Typical politico crap - maybe we can use that for fuel?

Comment by Grunt — July 18, 2008 @ 7:25 am
Gore.. shout your pie hole! Your hoax is exposed and no one believes you except the UN, and your green hedge fund friends. We know you aim to be a billionaire off this made up science. This is all about you becoming rich off your carbon credit firm and the money you invested in green energy stocks and hedge funds. This speech your panicked response the majority of American's plea to drill more. You can't fool us you wacko.

Comment by Bill in Exton PA — July 18, 2008 @ 7:32 am
What these socialist, tree hugging punks secretly want is for the U.S. to move toward a socialist state.

It's the thin edge of the totalitarian wedge when the government mandates that I wear a seat belt while driving an automobile. Who am I hurting by NOT wearing my seat belt? Every time they pass these kinds of laws, we all lose.

The same holds true for all the drum beating over global warming. Intelligent folks know global warming is a crock, and yet there will be some legislation passed during the next president's administration that will restrict our freedom in order to save a tree.

Comment by Joe Wright — July 18, 2008 @ 7:40 am
We must use the brilliance of Pelosi and Reid when looking at this.It would be atleast 10 years before this would do any good,so why should we bother with it?

Comment by Joe — July 18, 2008 @ 7:43 am
Gore is right.

Man is the worst thing that could have happened to the Earth. God really blew it with his arrogancce of creating man in his immage.
City will be flodding.. There will no longer be California.

But guess what! Al Gore will become a multi millionair by selling us all carbon credits from his carbon credit company.

1. Al Gore declairs a state of emergency.
2. Al Gore Gets the Democratic Congress to require everyone to by carbon credits
3. Al Gore has secretly started a company that sells carbon credits.

May I ask WTF is a carbon credit and WTF can I do with it.

Dump all Dems and RINO'S
Dismantle the idot government.

JCLOVESYA

Comment by John — July 18, 2008 @ 7:44 am
Big Al got awful smart once he got out of the White House. Must be he had more time when he didn't have to hit up the poverty striken Buddhist monks and nuns for money.

Comment by Big Jim — July 18, 2008 @ 7:57 am
I'd like to see the new fossil fuel free private jet Al Gore is thinking of using to replace the ones he and many of his greenocrite buddies use.

Comment by John the Fierce — July 18, 2008 @ 8:03 am
He who controls the energy corbon credits runs the world (Gore's secret desire). How much money has Gore been able to flin flam from the American people with the help of his Democratic Party ??? Why stop now–you don't kill your Golden Goose.

Comment by Russ W. — July 18, 2008 @ 8:04 am
If it wasnt for phoney "Global Warming".. Al Gore would have shot himself 8 years ago

Comment by jules — July 18, 2008 @ 8:15 am
Al Gore is dumber than dirt and the only ones more dumb are the followers of this moron! Drill here, drill NOW!!!

Comment by Jeff in Kansas — July 18, 2008 @ 8:15 am
I think Al Gore is a huge hipocrit with his mansion, but I think this time he may have a point. Forget about whether or not global warming exists. I'm not convinced either way.

Oil and coal are going to run out eventually, so what is so bad about us Americans being the leader in producing other sources of energy? We need to keep our money and jobs in our own country for once.

Comment by Eric — July 18, 2008 @ 8:17 am
I would love to see wind power fire up the afterburners on an F-15. What does Al Gore expect the military to run on? Oh, that's right, he isn't a fan of the military, so who cares right?

Comment by Political Junkie — July 18, 2008 @ 8:18 am
I love how all the right wing loonies in the comments spell like third graders and use pathetic, hack terminology like "Owl Bore."

Comment by Robert Robertson — July 18, 2008 @ 8:19 am
'bout time!

Senator V's one word description is equivalent to throwing Gore in a straight-jacket which should've been done decades ago.

Comment by Richard V. — July 18, 2008 @ 8:19 am
YOU CAN PROBABLY COUNT ON ONE HAND THE NUMBER OF TIMES THIS SENATOR HAS BEEN RIGHT ABOUT ANYTHING!!!!!

He and the rest of the GOP neanderthals better get their heads out of the sand, and SOON!!!

Comment by rjstolb — July 18, 2008 @ 8:23 am
You want to read a good blog on Al Gore's latest comments? This one hit the nail on the head.

http://www.myspace.com/gafreiman

It is called "Screw you Al Gore."

Comment by Sandy — July 18, 2008 @ 8:27 am
PEAK OIL is a term to watch for because it's the same old oil company BS from the so-called "oil shortage" crisis of the 70's.

Comment by Geff F — July 18, 2008 @ 8:28 am
Who is the one person the is profiting from all the "global warming" hype? Yep, Mr. Gore and his companies that take money for "offset" of one's "carbon footprint". And can anyone tell me when or where Mr. Gore has IN FACT debated anyone that is knowledgeable and on the opposite side as him on this issue? NOPE!

Comment by Frank — July 18, 2008 @ 8:31 am
If ALGORE had been elected the first time all would be good and there would be a Koran in every hotel/motel room in the country.

Comment by willie — July 18, 2008 @ 8:31 am
I enjoy reading all of the comments but wonder if a lot of you people live in the my real world.

I'm a selfish grown up American proud of my country and very happy with my way of life. I like most Americans have worked and lived hard to acheive this selfish lifestyle that God and my founding Fathers gave me the chance to do and that you so dislike.

If you wish to drive a small unsafe car and live like a hermit and starve your family but feel good then by all means please do so. If you wish to take away from your family all you have to give to someone who is too lazy to get up off of their fat %$%^ and do something or Better yet, send it to some war lord in Africa so you can say you are saving some poor person then again I say please feel to do that too. If you wish to support some orginazation that can sit and wring their hands while sucking you dry for money to talk about all of the great things they will do if they can just ever come to an agreement then by all means please feel to do that also. If you love and wish to be like Europe and live in those stately old homes that so many here in America seem to want to strive for, then please do so. If you wish to live under any other form of government other then our republic,please do so. If you wish to save the planet by using light bulbs that have and radiate mercury fumes then please do so. If you wish to walk or bycycle to save the world, please do so. If you wish to beleive that we mankind have runied the planet and it will die in 10 years,please do so.

I will give my life as so many men and women have to give you the freedom to do what ever you wish but do not think that freedom comes so that you can tell me what,where or how to live. You spend your money and resources the way you wish but do not think that I will give you one dime to destroy America just because you a have a death wish. Yes I said a death wish. Do you really think that if we give up driving vehicles that uses oil, or quit using a stupid light bulb, or give our food supply away that this will make one iota of difference to this planet?

This planet has been here a lot lot longer then man and there is nothing that we can do to change the cycles of life that it goes thru. Are you that foolish to think that you can change that?

If you wish to do all of those things that you think are so great and good then I wish you a safe and happy trip to maybe China, Russsia or maybe one of those countries in Africa. I know they will be glad to have you come and tell and help to clean up their part of the world.

I wish to be able to say and do what I like as long as it does no harm to others and to live where and when I like. I do not feel that my using electric and gas power does no harm if I do it with care. Like any normal Americans I will do my part to keep the enviroment as clean as possible and finding new ways to use my abilities to help others that wish to help themselves. I will do my best to give the next generation the same opportunity to do as I have done and that is to be able to have a home that is both safe and enjoyable, to drive or have transportation that will be both fast and comfortable. To camp, swim, to travel this great country with out having some nut job saying that They should not see the great redwoods or the oceans or visit Disney because it is bad for the enviorment.

If you wish to do all of those things then get the hell out of my house and leave my America alone or you may find that just because you live here you will see that freedom does not include destroying my country because you beleive that we or you are bad for enjoying life to the fullest. If you as a elected official feel that America is all wrong then I would suggest you leave with the others as I'm sure you too will find that your time is coming to a very unhappy end and soon.

I have never heard of people being killed to get out of this country only killed to get here. So we must be the worst thing that has ever been.

Finally,if you think that changing our way of life will make the world love us,you are really deluded. They are nothing more then jealous of our accomplishments and our way of life. They would love nothing more then to tear us down to their level.

Comment by LYNN WILLIAMS — July 18, 2008 @ 8:38 am
I can't wait until Al's starts flying in a solar powered plane. Oops. maybe it can burn wood chips after dark. This will work in his fantasy world where the iron laws of gravity and thermodynamics (among other laws of nature) are routinely ignored

Comment by vtht65 — July 18, 2008 @ 8:43 am
Al Gore wants a carbon tax. Does that mean every human being will have to pay a tax for breathing? After all, we exhale carbon dioxide, which isn't even a pollutant. It is just amazing how stupid and lazy the American people have become.

Comment by Melissa — July 18, 2008 @ 8:50 am
Couple questions for the folks who support Mr. Gore.

1) How much have you reduced your carbon footprint? If you need help, you can send me the keys to your car and home, I'll shut them both down (selling them would just mean someone else using them, after all).

2) If you're certain that you're right, e-mail me at mdooley@wsls.com. In 10 years, we'll meet in Times Square. If we have to have that meeting in a boat (or if there's a huge levee in NY), then I'll pay you $100. If the ocean levels have NOT risen, then you can pay me $10.

Check out the temperature trends:
http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/all-the-curves-that-are-fit-to-print/

One last note - Gore has taken to calling his cause "climate change" because of the uncertainty whether we're actually experiencing a warming or cooling trend. With that term, ANY weather can be attributed to man's "destruction of the environment".

Comment by Matt Dooley — July 18, 2008 @ 8:52 am
I think the comment about Al Gore going insane because he was so close to the presidency but lost is very interesting. William Jennings Bryan lost the presidency three times, and it started to get to him. Some say he lost it mentally. Lyndon Johnson went insane because of his ineffectiveness in running the war in Vietnam. Obama may lose it if anyone criticizes Michele again. How dare they say anything negative about the Obamas. Notice that late night TV show hosts mock McCain every night, but they are afraid to criticize Obama. Maybe this is a sign of things to come if he�s elected. Another Chavez and Venezuela?
Note: �Senator Obama is blaming the news media � and especially FOX News � for Michelle Obama's high negative ratings. Just under 30 percent of those polled had an unfavorable view of Michelle Obama in our last FOX News/Opinion Dynamics poll. A Rasmussen Reports poll last month put her unfavorable rating at 42 percent.� Source: Fox News

Comment by Geff F — July 18, 2008 @ 8:52 am
Too bad we can't produce a power source that will run on all the BULL Al and his minions keep spewing!! Additionally, if we don't buy into his fodder, all the money he has been to buy into green technology interests will simply be flushed away! Too bad for the Goricle!!

Comment by BobbyB — July 18, 2008 @ 8:53 am
While there's no doubt that Al Gore is an idiot, drilling for more oil is not going to solve anything either. At best, it will lower the price of gas a few cents…10-15 years from now. Who cares about that? The best thing to do is to come up with cheap, renewable resources. Not to appease the hippies, but to make it affordable for developing nations so that Chavez and the Middle Eastern countries lose their customer base.

Comment by Mike — July 18, 2008 @ 8:55 am
If Sen. Voinovich had taken the time to read what Al Gore said then he would know that Mr. Gore is in favor of using "various sources of energy". Righties, it's time to get over yourselves, you're acting like a bunch of babies who lost their binkys!

Comment by Susan — July 18, 2008 @ 8:55 am
Members of WE, Gores PAC are useful idiots raising money for gores personal bank account. Gore wants to sell valueless "Carbon offsets" to the government to personally enrich himself. That money is being redirected from REAL environmental needs like cleanups and other superfund activity. Just any "true believer" if they know where the money goes.

Comment by Greg H — July 18, 2008 @ 8:59 am
It is a sad commentary on our nation when people such as Gore are at nominated for President. Neither party has fielded good candidates but I shudder to think Gore was almost elected.
I only wish he would spend more time in his indoor heated pool and less time making speaches. He does need psychiatric attention.

Comment by AC Watts — July 18, 2008 @ 8:59 am
I can't believe some of these comments. Of course global warming is a real thing. Statements that it has not been proved by science are lies. It HAS been proved, over and over. No scientist not on an oil company payroll disputes it. You may disagree about how soon significant damage will occur or how bad it is at this point–but it IS real. Why do conservatives feel it is so necessary to deny the facts? You breathe the same air, experience the same weather, and suffer from the same illnesses. And your grandchildren will suffer just like mine from the problems. If you look at a distant view on a smoggy day, you can SEE the pollution. Does anyone, even the most conservative person, think this is a good thing?
Ah!

Comment by Bill — July 18, 2008 @ 9:00 am
I want the liberals to get active, and create this alternative energy source that will power jet aircraft, lawn mowers, power plants, motorcycles as efficiently as gasoline does. Sure, alternates to running a power plant to generate electricity are out there, even if only70% efficient.. but lets get to the brass tacks here. Run my lawn mowers and chain saws you hysterical liberals!! You keep screaming ow somebody should invent it..well, shut up and DO IT. Sure, you may spend money only to find there is NO ALTERNATIVE… but at least you would be spending YOUR money and not stealing other people's!

Comment by ralpherus — July 18, 2008 @ 9:00 am
We send about 14% of every dollar spend on Gasoline to OPEC. I feel resonably certain that if we told OPEC we would no longer be sending that 14% to them, and will be applying it to domestic resources. The price of opec oil would immediately drop 40 to 60%.

Comment by SW — July 18, 2008 @ 9:03 am
[...] Al Gore's got a 10-year plan that has the conservatives bouncing off the walls. [...]

Pingback by Creative Loafing Tampa » The Political Whore » Blog Archive » The Short List � Fri., July 18 — July 18, 2008 @ 9:05 am
Actions, not words are the coin of the realm… just get it done and stop bickering on how to do it… just do it…

The US has lost an advantage by not capitalizing on profit-taking from oil over the last 50 years when the price of oil was considerably less. Imagine the investment of pennies on the dollar from fifty years ago in a fund that continued to grow and grow for the investment in our country's energy future. We are sloths, all of us, and will continue to let debate and rhetoric drag our progress. Just work together to get it together and stop claiming your fifteen minutes of fame.

Comment by Geogib — July 18, 2008 @ 9:05 am
I read in another article that T Boone Pickens was going to build a wind farm big enough to power a city the size of San Diego Ca. It will be 200,000 acres. That's right TWO-HUNDRED-THOUSAND ACRES! That's 312.5 sq. miles. The entire city of approx. 1.3 million people is only 355.8 sq. miles. Destroying that much environment at a ratio of almost 1-1 for power doesn't sound very green to me. It's insanity.

Comment by raybojabo — July 18, 2008 @ 9:05 am
Hey Bill, in 397: the sun warms the planet. The sun could puff out to red giant stage, and we would all be toast in minutes. Carbon Dioxide is not why the earth warms. Get a meter, get into a green house, and you will find that it is not gas at all that warms the green house. It is the inability of the long wavelenght warmth to escape through the glass that warms it. Itis known as a heat trap. But, the moarxists destroyed education and so simpletons like you fall for the lies, and go all emotional instead of factual, and golly are we in for a rough ride while we have to forcefully educate all you morons… Hey, why do you want free health care, while simultaneously making 90 million armed angry americans want you gone? Liberals are sick… stupid and sick….and so easily fooled..

Comment by ralpherus — July 18, 2008 @ 9:05 am
As a long suffering Buckeye, it is nice to see that RINO Georgie Boy finally gets something straight. Amazing!

Comment by ursa major � July 18, 2008 @ 5:45 am

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!
Georgie is a total right off in my book. This rebuttal to AL Gore's money making scam is about his only saving grace.

Comment by wOzerd — July 18, 2008 @ 9:06 am
Al Gore is a joke. Most intelligent people see right through his scam. He stands to make a lot of money for every moron he can scare into falling for his "man made global warming" farce. He has fooled so many people he's almost relevant! There are thousands of scientists with advanced degrees that know that man isn't responsible for global warming but there are always idiots out there that will fall for anything. Snake oil salesmen like Gore count on that!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 9:13 am
Al Gore is an idiot. He would be entertaining if not for the fact that thousands actually believe he knows what he's talking about and that his solutions should be acted upon. Big Al is for big government–total control of our economic livelyhood. He should be totally rejected. Go back to Carthage and plow some salt, Al Gore.

Comment by Steve — July 18, 2008 @ 9:13 am
Hey,hey,hey, Fat Albert couldn't even carry his home state during his run for pres.People who know him best.That should tell the world something,listen & you will hear"WAKE UP DUMMIES"!!!

Comment by D Cole — July 18, 2008 @ 9:14 am
That's right Jon Vander Pol! Oh, wait a minute! Aren't they paying 9.00 per gallon in Scandinavia? The scientific evidence is NOT overwhelming, unless you only look at one side of the argument. Man made global warming is a complete hoax, and history will prove once again, that modern liberalism was on the wrong side of History.

Comment by garabel — July 18, 2008 @ 9:15 am
Susan said "If Sen. Voinovich had taken the time to read what Al Gore said…" Why would a senator take time out of his day to read the ravings of a lunatic? I don't blame him for not wasting his time.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 9:19 am
I find it intersting, hypocritical (as per usual with the damn democrats) and outrageous that the big robot buffoon Gore can continue this charade of global warming, cooling or whatever the weather happens to be doing at the time. It has been written that not only does he use more energu in his castle, he also earns $400,000,000 in his investments that deal with global warming. The people who buy into this crap are the lemmings that were forced over the cliff by Disney - morons.

Comment by CrusaderInfidel — July 18, 2008 @ 9:19 am
I'm still waiting to hear why this current global warming is any different then all the other periods of global warming during the one million year history of earth. Niagara Falls was created by global warming 10,000 years ago. That was probably pretty dramatic. But no one blamed it on Republicans.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 9:19 am
I like the point by ralpherus. I'll add to it. If you liberals are so serious about this "man made" global warming thing, then stop driving cars.. period.. right now. We'll follow your lead.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 9:22 am
I dont know how anyone could even consider listening to Al on anything… wasnt this the guy who invented the internet? It's amazing to me how people pay any attention to this guy, he sure is making alot of money suckering the ill informed.

Comment by Clay — July 18, 2008 @ 9:24 am
If left alone, a market based solution would evolve to begin to solve our energy woes. Unfortunately, big government feels the need to stick their noses into it, derailing market signals and benefiting a chosen few. Look to history. Anything the government has touched has turned to muck, Social Security, Public Education, Energy Policy to name just a few. Wake up America and take back our country. These people, including Al Gore, have one thing in mind–they're personal fortune. Best to remember that a government gives you nothing it hasn't taken from someone else.

Comment by Ima Smithette — July 18, 2008 @ 9:25 am
Thank you, Dan, for the great post (#338). I too am an engineer, and I feel frustration that so many have accepted Al Gore's "scientific" theory, without the backup of the scientific process. I feel like a passenger on an airplane in which the pilot just had a heart attack and the other passengers are looking to the stewardess (Alicia Gore) to save them. We are told that the issue is settled, yet there are thousands of "weather conscious" scientists who say otherwise. (Note also that the UN IPCC report stated that 2500 scientists reviewed the report on global warming, but we were not told that not all of these scientists AGREED with the conclusions in the report.)

It is true that we must act, within reason, as responsible caretakers of our planet. Mr. Gore is doing a great disservice by forcing his extreme, unsupportable views on a society that has little capability to dispute them. At best, Mr. Gore's arguments are specious, but at worst, they are morally reprehensible; bordering on the criminal.

Comment by LarryW — July 18, 2008 @ 9:26 am
Come on people. We're trying to talk sense to liberals. That's like trying to teach a mule to talk (only this time we are having to address the south end of a north bound mule). Just because a lot of educators are liberals (no common sense) the other liberals like to fool themselves into thinking that liberals, as a whole, are intelligent. We know otherwise. It's as Winston Churchill said "if you're 20 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you're 30 and STILL a liberal, you don't have a brain".

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 9:26 am
Oh lord… Every one should wear a T-shirt which States how much lower their carbon foot print is when compared to Al Gore. If you can't live it…. Don't preach it… typical liberal hypocrit. Only they know better. Only the Liberal Elite can tell us how to live our lives. Michelle O'Bama…"Barack isn't going to let you.." Watch Out America… Big Brother is about to grab the Steering wheel….

Comment by Gun Bible Clinger — July 18, 2008 @ 9:26 am
Cool…does this mean we are all going to get a voucher for an electric car?? Thanks Al! Sign me up!

Comment by H — July 18, 2008 @ 9:27 am
The fear level is indeed high against our
former vice president. The personal attacks
evade the issue. Could you possibly stop
projecting your self-loathing.
Amrica could use a new revolution toward
independence and you're on the wrong side.

Comment by doug rubel — July 18, 2008 @ 9:30 am
Garabel,

Modern libralism will be proven wrong… again? You say that as though such a thing happens often. Certainly that's not true of social issues (slavery, civil rights, women's suffrage, prohibition laws, union rights, rights to privacy, etc…)

Perhaps you have a problem with the liberal approach to economics (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, every MAJOR economic expansion in the history of the country…)? Take a look at the number of depressions/recessions that happen under "conservative" leadership vs. "liberal" leadership..

Or maybe you have a problem with the history of liberal administrations when it comes to prosecuting a war (…seriously, what was the last war that we won? Which wars have actually managed broad public support?)

I think you should put down your kool-aid for a sec, and look at history through the lenses of objective fact. "Conservative" literally refers to- the act of restraining, holding back or maintaining. "Liberal" means- freedom.

I don't care what idiot trendy mags are saying these days "flat is not the new up," but, hey, that's what you get from a conservative ideology…

Comment by Josh — July 18, 2008 @ 9:31 am
I love how the lefties come on here and denounce how mean we are to call AlGore names. Then to turn around and start calling GWB names, and call us names, like flat earthers, or deniers. I do believe that is the definition of hypocrite.

Will someone please tell me how 'drilling won't help us for 10 years' is a valid excuse for not drilling? They said it 10 years ago, they'll say it 10 years from now. Shoot, even their beloved leader AlGore says that HIS plan won't do us any good for (drum roll please) that mystical 10 years.

I guess the only valid reason to NOT drill would be to consume all of the Arab oil FIRST, then start drilling ours (gee, just enough for our needs) and let them turn back to the bedouin society they were before WE started pumping oil out of there.

Comment by Ron of Jax — July 18, 2008 @ 9:34 am
Al sore Gore made up global cooling, opps…global warming…oppps….climate change (like the earth hasn't been changing for the last, doh, bah zillion years) because he lost the election and is getting us all back. There isn't a single iota of scientific evidence that suppports man made combustion by-products producing climate change. Yet there is evidence supporting solar sun spots, cloud cover, ocean temperatures and myriad of reasonable causes. Yet Gore and his psuedo scientist left wing nut jobs continue the hysteria. The chart he brags about even shows temperatures rising first then carbon dioxide. A few marbles of carbon dioxied in a million isn't going to hurt anything. As matter of fact it's even good for plant life. Get a clue, clueless liberals.

Comment by vor — July 18, 2008 @ 9:36 am
Gore is rich. He can pay $4 and up for gas. He's asking for grocery clerks, waitresses, retired people on fixed incomes and strapped middle class families, not to mention the poor, to sacrifice everything and throw our economy into a tailspin for the next 10 years to solve a "long-term" problem. The more pressing issue is national security and independence from foreign oil. We must attack this issue on all fronts - oil, natural gas, nuclear, coal, wind, solar, alternative, etc.

Comment by David — July 18, 2008 @ 9:36 am
Yes, the fear level is high against Al, it should be. If enough people believe his lies it's going to raise all of our taxes even higher. Of course, libs such as doug rubel have never seen a tax that they didn't like.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 9:37 am
There is a great chapter in a book called Your Not a Democrat You just Think You are.

In chapter 7 Global Warming / Freedom Freezing it confronts the hoax that the liberals talk about.

Check it out here.
http://www.amazon.com/Youre-Not-Democrat-Just-Think/dp/0595480764/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216388095&sr=8-1

Comment by John Garmon — July 18, 2008 @ 9:38 am
Hey vor, I'm sure that, according to Al, we're responsible for sunspots also. Watch out, now he'll want our taxes raised to fight sunspots!!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 9:40 am
So when T Boone Pickens rolls out his energy plan are you righties going to turn on one of your own? As much as I can't stand his past political views and tactics, I'm still willing to listen to what he says with AN OPEN MIND! Grow up - the Republicans have done NOTHING to ease our dependence on oil.

Comment by Susan — July 18, 2008 @ 9:41 am
if this issue is time critical, why is al gore the country's biggest personal energy consumer? he uses 20 times the national avg., AND is in the business of profiting from the buying and selling of carbon credits? riddle me that.

Comment by cb — July 18, 2008 @ 9:44 am
Gore's ignorance is astounding. The Moon program was chartered to move at the maximum possible speed. Cape Wind, for example, has been mired in legal and regulatory battles for 8 years. In that time, not one windmill has been allowed to be built. The solution to this is political. If the alternate energy advocates are serious, then they must work on legislation to fast track these projects so that they can actually happen in a timely and cost efficient manner. Otherwise, it's all just hot air.

Comment by Beef — July 18, 2008 @ 9:45 am
This piece seems more interested in political soap opera than national goals. Why is having an "ambitious" goal, a reason to piss and moan. Let's get to work and in 10 years we can take a breath from the necessary hard work and see where we stand.

People who have "personality" issues with Gore need to get a hobby or something.

Comment by Bill — July 18, 2008 @ 9:46 am
If not for democrats, gas would be less than $2.00 a gallon. I'm sure big oil loves the democrats for creating their record profits.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 9:48 am
Hey Susan. The Democrat-controlled Congress are the ones who have done NOTHING to ease our dependence on oil. Al "Carbon Credits" Gore is a joke and his policies are a joke. The man has a carbon footprint the size of a small town and consumes more electricity than 20 normal US households. George Bush's Crawford ranch is a model of conservation. Who's the hypocrite? I'll start paying attention when Al "the world has a fever" Gore walks to his next Cannes film release instead of driving the 1/4 mile from his hotel in a six car limousine convoy.

Comment by Ralphie — July 18, 2008 @ 9:50 am
If algore farts in the woods, will there be any sierra club member there to capture it and have that potential energy sold to the grid as Robert Kennedy would want? Or will that fart just dissipate into our atmosphere and melt Antarctica? Questions we must ponder as a species…

Comment by cuyahogaman — July 18, 2008 @ 9:50 am
I don't believe it's a personality issue with little Al, it's a credibility issue and a character issue. It just comes out as an attack on his personality. His personality just begs for attacks and jokes.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 9:51 am
If Al Gore and Bill Clinton were more focused on energy independence when they took office, we would not be in the mess we are in now.
Easy to be an armchair environmentalist when Al Gore uses more energy for his home in one month than I use in two years. Oh wait, he pays himself energy credits. What a joke.

Comment by TJ — July 18, 2008 @ 9:53 am
It's unfair to say that the democrats have done nothing… they've fought hard, tirelessly standing in the way of attempts to ease our dependence on foreign oil.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 9:54 am
I love the way people say "use alternative fuels" as if this was possible. Tell us what are the alternative fuels and how they will work with current technology. If we all switch to electricity, the grid will not support everyone charging their car.

Comment by Big Jim — July 18, 2008 @ 9:54 am
To all those who question the hoax of ….let's be clear here peeps…global warming is happening and has been happening for the last 20000 years since the last ice age. The 'Hoax' is Anthropogenic Global Warming which means 'manmade'. Anyone who really wants to understand things please Google Dr. Reid Bryson, whom many term the 'Grandfather of Global Climatology', the originator of the term 'Anthropogenic Global Climate Change'. Bryson who knew, sorry Dr. Bryson passed away in his sleep in mid June '08, more about global climate than probably anyone on the face of the earth has always be clear and honest. In a nutshell, 'we don't know if manmade climate change is happening but it is a totaly fallacy that CO2 is causing climate change'. Bryson's most loved comment about Al Gore believers I have committed to memory…..'You could go outside and spit and have as much effect on the climate as doubling current CO2 levels.' Think about morons.

Comment by Paladino — July 18, 2008 @ 9:54 am
That's a funny one, Jack. Tell some more funnies.

Comment by Susan — July 18, 2008 @ 9:55 am
"Grow up - the Republicans have done NOTHING to ease our dependence on oil."

Susan, you need to wake up sister. The republicans have proposed opening up drilling in areas that the DEMS are blocking. Their idea of an energy policy is to make the oil companies drill on leased land that the know does not contain economically recoverable oil. Meanwhile, Bill Clinton, your hero, signed the bill to stop all offshore oil drilling except for a small area in the Gulf. Nancy Pelosi would rather see poor people suffer than allow the exploration and drilling of oil in places (in and around our country) that CONTAIN the oil we need. Again, wake up, sister.

Comment by drew — July 18, 2008 @ 9:56 am
The left are the ones that have said "anyone" that disagrees about global warming should be charged and arrested for crimes against humanity! I do not recall anyone of prominance from the right saying anything of that nature! NO! It is the LEFT that is against FREEDOM OF SPEECH! For those they disagree with! But then being the twisters and perverters of "truth" they accuse others, of the very thing THEY practice! Just remember anytime MOST liberals accuse others it is EXACTLY what they practice! For they judge ALL THINGS by THEIR OWN HEART! Others just DECIEVE THEMSELVES WILLINGLY!!

Comment by zack — July 18, 2008 @ 9:57 am
Anyone with even a small amount of common sense can see global "warming" as nothing more than a farce. I often take foreign students around the country - I tell them to just believe what they see with their own eyes. After even a few weeks here, they quickly realize they've been fed a whole lot of BS in their schools about the "evil" USA, when they find our country not only cleaner (by far!) than their own, but that our potential and productivity runs circles around the rest of the world. I often here this crap about the USA being only 4% of the world population, but using 1/4 of the world's energy. Guess what - we produce 1/3 of the world's goods and services! By contrast, China is now the TOP producer of emissions and yet produces only 1/5 the GNP of the USA. The failure of many USA apologists appears to me to be the lasting effect of a poor education in government schools and the mentality of many that the government must "protect" them from all dangers, not just the real ones they cannot understand, like radical terrorism, but the "imagined" dangers also. In the normal cycle of history, people usually wake up to the real dangers a bit too late and as for the imagined dangers, as the late, great, Gilda Radnor often said when proven to be a fool in her SNL skits - - "nevermind!!".

Comment by DennisinOhio — July 18, 2008 @ 9:59 am
WE NEED TO STOP ENCAPSULATING OURSELVES IN DEFINITIONS AND LABELS… IT SHOULD NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE, BLACK, WHITE, YELLOW, BROWN, PINK, RED OR BLUE,… REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, INDEPENDENT OR GREEN,… LEFT OF THE AISLE, RIGHT OF THE AISLE, OR SITTING ON THE STEPS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AISLE….

STOP YOUR WHINING AND DO WHAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO… STOP BLOWING SMOKE UP OUR BUTTS, GET OFF YOURS, AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE, YEAH, YOU KNOW, THOSE FOR WHOM GOVERNMENT IS ALL ABOUT… OF, FOR, AND BY…

YOU DON'T LISTEN TO US ANYMORE, YOU ARE ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR TENURE AND YOUR POSITION AND CANNOT RISE ABOVE SUCH SELF-INDULGENCE TO THINK ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENTS… YOU ARE ONE MIND, NOT A PLURALITY UNLESS YOU WORK TOGETHER…

WE ARE TIRED OF WORKING TWO OR THREE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET, WE ARE TIRED OF THE MANIPULATIONS OF THE BANKING AND MORTGAGE INDUSTRY, WE ARE TIRED OF BEING SLAVES TO OIL, WE ARE TIRED OF LOSING OUR BUSINESSES AND JOBS TO FOREIGN INVESTORS, WE ARE TIRED OF SUB-STANDARD EDUCATION, WE ARE TIRED OF THE DRUGS THAT INFEST OF SOCIETY AND CORRUPT OR CHILDREN, WE ARE TIRED OF TOO MANY SYSTEMS THAT ARE BROKE OR IN DIRE NEED OF REPAIR… WE ARE TIRED HEARING THE PREACHING OF HOW AMERICA NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN… WELL, DUH! WHO'S IN CONGRESS? OH? YEAH, RIGHT…

WE ARE DIVIDED BY SO MANY THINGS AND THIS DEVISIVENESS IS OUR WORST ENEMY… WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY… AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S MORE ABOUT "I GOT MINE… AND I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT YOURS… DEAL WITH IT!" THAN IT IS ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THINGS BETTER….

WE HAVE BECOME CALLOUS AND HARDENED AGAINST OURSELVES AND DESPITE THE SPEECHES AND THOSE WHO WOULD MAKE US BELIEVE OTHERWISE, WE ARE DIVIDED ALONG SO MANY LINES, IT IS NO WONDER THE WORLD LOOKS UPON US LIKE A SPOILED LITTLE CHILD WHO IS CRYING TO GET ATTENTION…

WE BUILT THIS COUNTRY ON A FOUNDATION OF BELIEFS, AND YET, WE ALLOW OUR COUNTRY TO BE TORN APART, POLITICALLY LIMB BY LIMB, ECONOMICALLY WE ARE WITHOUT A SOUL,… AS A NATION, WE ARE LOSING OUR IDENTITY, NOT TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR ANY IMMIGRATION, BECAUSE WE ARE WHO WE ARE, A NATION OF PIONEERS, BOTH OLD AND NEW… NO, WE ARE LOSING OUR IDENTITY TO FOREIGN INVESTORS WHO ARE SNAPPING UP EVERY BUSINESS, EVERY PIECE OF FARMLAND, EVERY RESOURCE, EVERY CHUNK OF WHAT WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO PRESERVE, WE ARE LOSING TO GLOBAL BUYERS INVESTING NOT IN AMERICA, BUT RATHER, CARTING OFF THE GOODS AND SERVICES OF AMERICA LIKE THEY WERE AT A YARD SALE… WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY, OUR RESOURCES, OUR ABILITY TO REMAIN A DRIVING FORCE IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AND NOT ALLOW FOREIGN MANIPULATION OF OUR ECONOMY…

WE HAVE THE EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, THE FINANCIAL WHERE-WITH-ALL, THE INTUITIVE KNOW-HOW, THE "CAN-DO" ATTITUDE… WE HAVE SOMETHING NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS… AMERICAN INGENUITY AND STICK-TO-ITIVENESS…

LISTEN, MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE CAREER POLITICIANS, MOST OF THEM ARE LAWYERS, AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM COULDN'T COME TOGETHER TO AGREE ON ANYTHING WITHOUT THE PROMISE OF SOMETHING FROM EACH OTHER. START WORKING TOGETHER, NOT AS NAYSAYERS AND LOBBYIST LOVERS, BUT AS REPRESENTATIVES ELECTED TO DO A JOB,… SHOW US THE "MONEY"… DON'T TELL US, SHOW US,… DON'T TELL US WHAT YOU CAN'T DO, SHOW US WHAT YOU CAN DO… AND SIMPLY, JUST DO IT!

PUT ASIDE YOUR WASTEFUL EARMARKS, STOP THINKING ABOUT FEATHERING YOUR OWN POLITICAL CAREER NEST, STOP COZYING UP TO LOBBYISTS WHO THWART EVERY ATTEMPT TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY BETTER… STOP BEING SO SELFISH AND MAKE TIME FOR THOSE WHO ELECTED YOU… STOP THINKING ABOUT PROTECTING YOUR OWN NECK AND STICK IT OUT FOR US…

IMPROVE OUR SCHOOLS, HELP US REDUCE GLOBAL WARMING BY SHOWING THE WORLD WE CAN DO IT TOGETHER, CONVENE COMMITTEES OF EXPERTS TO SEEK WAYS TO HARNASS THE POTENTIAL GLOBAL WARMING PRESENTS US BY TURNING A NEGATIVE INTO A POSITIVE,

THE WEALTH OF ENERGY CONSERVATION EFFORTS SHOULD BE SHARED BY ALL AMERICANS, IF WE BUY INTO WIND, THERMAL, HYDRO, SOLAR, AND PHOTO-VOLTAIC ELECTRICITY, THEN DON'T MAKE IT SO COSTLY THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD IT, SIMPLY TO PROFIT BY IT,… MAKE IT WORK AND MAKE IT AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYONE… USE THE MANAGMENT CONCEPT OF GETTING THE SUPPORT NOT JUST FROM THE TOP DOWN, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, FROM THE BOTTOM UP…

IMPROVE MASS TRANSPORTATION, RE-INVENT THE RAILROADS AS A WAY TO MOVE OUR ECONOMIC MUSCLE, IMPROVE CONDITIONS FOR TAPPING OUR RESOURCES IN A MEASURED MANNER THAT PROLONGS THEIR EXISTENCE AND PROTECTS OUR ENVIRONMENT, IMPROVE OUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR JOBS, STOP GIVING AWAY OUR COUNTRY AND GIVE IT BACK TO US…

YOU WANT COURAGEOUS… HOW ABOUT DOING YOUR JOB LIKE THE SOLDIERS OVERSEAS,… IF THE PEN IS MIGHTER THAN THE SWORD, THAN PROVE IT… NO GUTS, NO GLORY…. SHOW US THAT AMERICA HAS A SPINE… SHOW US THAT YOU CAN BE BETTER HELP US BECOME BETTER, ENHANCE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND HELP US BECOME A BETTER NATION… BE SELFLESS IN YOUR CONVICTIONS AND WORK WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO GET THIS NATION BACK ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY AND SUSTAINABILITY… WE ARE TIRED OF THE MANTRA, "VOTE FOR ME, VOTE FOR ME…"

WE ARE FLOUNDERING IN A SEA OF INDECISION AND DROWNING IN OUR MISERY… C'MON, WE ALL PUT OUR PANTS ON ONE LEG AT A TIME, SO REMEMBER, YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN THOSE WHO PUT YOU IN OFFICE… LET'S MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN… LET'S SHOW THE WORLD WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE… LET'S START TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES FIRST, BEFORE WE TROT OFF TO TAKE CARE OF THE REST OF THE WORLD… CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME, AND SO DOES FAMILY…

AMERICANS DESERVE BETTER, NOT MORE, JUST BETTER… MAKE IT HAPPEN

Comment by Geogib — July 18, 2008 @ 10:01 am
Susan thinks that it's funny that the democrats have blocked most attempts to rid ourselves of our dependence on foreign oil. They constantly block exploration of new oil fields and drilling in known fields. They pass laws calling for regional blends of fuel, causing prices to soar. I don't think it's funny at all, maybe you like paying high fuel prices.
It amazes me that, even though the dems constantly screw the poor, the poor keep voting for them.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 10:02 am
To Susan (#422). When the "global warming" issue surfaced originally, my mind was truly open. I wanted someone to show me the evidence that:
1) global warming was really something that was happening,
2) that man was the cause of this global warming, and
3) that global warming was a negative thing.

To date, the adherents of the global warming religion have been unable to PROVE any of these points. It may be that the first point is true, although some scientists claim that global cooling may be at hand.

The loudest voice I have heard is that of Al Gore, and he will not even debate his detractors. Do you really think this is a man of principle; someone to put on a pedestal?

Most assuredly, in spite of the pronouncements of the believers, THE ISSUE OF GLOBAL WARMING HAS NOT BEEN SETTLED.

And Susan, you are correct. The Republicans have done nothing to ease our dependence on oil, especially foreign oil. However, neither have the Democrats, and until other technoligies become widely available, oil is mostly all that we have.

Comment by LarryW — July 18, 2008 @ 10:03 am
Compare Al Gore to President George Bush on any level and Gore suffers mightily:
Weight,looks, pleasantness, looks like a good friend, raising children, honesty, true environmentalist compare houses and autos,Gore's house uses more electricity than 200 houses while Bush' house in Texas is environmentally excellent, Gore is loved by liberals because they are frauds like him.

Comment by Florida Jim — July 18, 2008 @ 10:04 am
Wow! Anybody got a chill pill for Geogib? That boy definitely needs anger management counseling!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 10:04 am
Gore is Chicken Little, no, make that Chicken Big time liar. He and all his leftie cronies are conspiring to make everyone believe that not only is the sky falling but the earth needs saving. They need to brainwash people into believing this so that they can come in on the scene and make themselves the Savior of mankind. It's all hogwash! And this from the man who "invented" the Internet. Will someone please get him off the stage? Toto, hurry and pull back the curtain!

Comment by Eva — July 18, 2008 @ 10:08 am
Al Gore wants to tell what kind of car to drive, what kind of house to live in, He wants to rule us through government. If we buy into this bullcrap, we will be a broken nation with no industry no jobs and no cash flow. We are setting on oil, lets drill it use it for ourselves and look for alternative fuels . There is no other fule even on the horizon that can take the place of oil. You know the radical Muslims could not defeat us miltarily, but now they are doing it economically. They are breaking us bit by bit. We use oil it is the blood of our commerce. We can replace it but no way in 10 years. As for our impact on global warming, look at an event called Mount Krakatoa it thre Billions and billions of punds of CO2 into the atmosphere, you klnow what though, I believe that green plants love CO2…..In fact greeen plants are thriving now…..GO HOME SNAKE OIL SALESMAN YOUR CURE IS TO HIGH OF A PRICE

Comment by Mike — July 18, 2008 @ 10:12 am
Algore is nuts. Why not add methanol and ethanol to the types of fuels that cars and trucks burn. Can you imagine if gasoline had to compete at the pump with other types of fuels. All the car manufactures would have to do is make flex fuel vehicles. It's done in other countries.

Comment by Bob L. — July 18, 2008 @ 10:13 am
Wow! Anybody got a chill pill for Geogib? That boy definitely needs anger management counseling!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop � July 18, 2008 @ 10:04 am

At least you read it Jack… thanks!

Comment by Geogib — July 18, 2008 @ 10:14 am
Uh… Al Gore owns part of a hedge fund that will do very, very well if this were to happen… Why does nobody point to the conflict of interest here??? He is scamming the American people, and the media laps it up like a kitten with cream… Ack.

Comment by juan — July 18, 2008 @ 10:14 am
US electric power generation capacity by Fuel Type in 2006:
Fossil 761,603MW, 77.2%
Nuclear 100,334MW, 10.2%
Hydro 77,821MW, 7.9%
Other renewable 24,113MW, 2.4%
Hydro pumped storage 21,461MW, 2.2%
Other 882MW, 0.1%
Total 986,214MW

Source: http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epat2p2.html

How is Gore going to replace more than 761,603MW of fossil power? A windmill at the time, when the wind blows? A solar panel at the time, when the sun shines?

He is so full of s… but that fits his style … and financial and ego interests.

Comment by Stefan — July 18, 2008 @ 10:15 am
Don't forget, Al now works for a venture capital firm that has ideally positioned him to make his next fortune in renewable energy technologies. As Church Lady once said, "How conveeeeenient."

Comment by Joe L — July 18, 2008 @ 10:19 am
Great comeback Geogib (456)! "Same to you buddy" would have been equally great!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 10:22 am
I just glad to see the majority of people are starting to see this hypocritcal snake oil salesman for who he is.

Comment by Waid — July 18, 2008 @ 10:22 am
Hey Brad, get your head out of your rear! Do you know who makes most of the money from gasoline (besides the Arabs)? Of course you don't, you're a liberal, how silly of me to forget! Here's the answer: little people like you! Shareholders, middle income people. Get a life (see about a brain while you're at it).

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 10:25 am
I'm sorry Drew, but it was George HW Bush who imposed the ban on offshore drilling in 1990 and this continued through a Republican congress and senate. It was Jeb Bush who opposed the loudest on drilling in the gulf when Clinton proposed to lease 600 million acres to the oil industries. Bush won his battle in 2001 when the amt. of leased land was reduced to 25%.
It was Jimmy Carter who put together a comprehensive program to wean us from oil in 30 years and it was Reagan who slashed all funding for it.
If the oil companies are drilling on land that doesn't contain economically recoverable oil then why on earth are they paying millions of dollars to lease it?!? Sounds pretty foolish to me.
Until 2006, Republicans were in charge of the house and senate for 12 years - 6 of those years we had a Repub. president. And now the Dems only have control of the house, not the senate where it's 49 Repubs, 49 Dems and 2 Indep. I agree that both parties are at fault, but the Repubs have blocked every effort to raise the mpg rate at every chance. It's the oil industries, the tourism states, the auto industries, all have had a part in this.

Comment by Susan — July 18, 2008 @ 10:26 am
The real truth of the matter is we must push forward on ALL KNOWN SOURCES of energy to INCLUDE nuclear and expanded oil. The libs in this country don't seem to realize is what is missing in dealing with OPEC is that we as a country have no leverage (this is a business term that the libs don't understand). Once we make it a national priority to also start drilling we will regain this thing called leverage and the price of oil will start to come down. To take the Polosi positon NO DRILLING we forego that opportunity. If we just wait for wind and geothermal to come on line we won't survive long enough to see it. All the non drillers should be drummed out of office in November (Dems & Reps alike). That will send the message to OPEC that they are on the going out of business curve (a term that the Dems seem to like for this country). Get real and DRILL NOW and ignore fools like Al Gore.

Comment by Jerry from Tampa — July 18, 2008 @ 10:28 am
Al Gore is a hypocrite.

I'm not sure what to believe about global warming, but find it interesting there's no consensus on the issue. Either way, reducing our dependance on oil would be a good thing…although I think it's completely unreasonable to do in 10 years without a full spectrum approach. Drill now, build more nuclear reactors now (that's the GOP) AND invest in solar and wind techonolgy so we have those for the future (Dems)…do it all.

If Gore want to really be taken seriously on environmental issues, he needs to clean up his act first…he'd be better off paying someone who lives 'green' to do the speaking for him.

Comment by H. Heren — July 18, 2008 @ 10:34 am
In NYC we have a big hole in the ground where the WTC used to stand. Due to infighting, politics and general incompetence, that will be the case on the 10th anniversary of the terrorists attacks. If we can't build a few buildings in TEN years, what makes Algore think the WORLD can switch from fossil fuels to hot air in that time span. As always, with the envirosocialists, we hear we only have ten years to do something. Ted Danson, that great oceanographer, said many years ago we only have ten years left to clean up the oceans. Well, more than ten years have come and gone and the oceans still survive, thank you. Follow the money in the enviromental religion. Algore has become a mega millionaire pushing industries in which he has a huge vested interest. Such conflicts of interest were he a Republican would start Senate and House investigations. But to the loony-Left, he is an icon, can walk on water and his words are golden. Why believe 10,000 respected climate scientists when we have a failed divinity student to lead the way. Algore is the Jim Jones of this generation. Drink the Kool-Aid and suffer the consequences.

Comment by Jeff T — July 18, 2008 @ 10:35 am
The best short-term solution I've heard of is to convert our existing cars into hybrids getting 200 plus mpg. Most people can't afford a new car, but if we could covert our existing cars at a reasonable cost then it could be done quickly and give us time to wean us away from gas completely. People are working on this right now, so it's a possibility.

Comment by Susan — July 18, 2008 @ 10:38 am
Now stop picking on algore everyone. He is the savior to our planet. Earth will be renamed within a decade . The powerful and influential Nobel and Oscar Committees are seriously pushing for a planet name change to "Goreanus", aka, "The Hot Planet."

The people of Tennessee have got to be proud. He is volunteering all of this global catastrophe stuff, isn't he? I just hope he grows some #$%s so that he can debate his hoax theory with real scientists who do not have a carbon imprint agenda like big algore does. This global tax or carbon credit or carbon cap crap is Communism in a green package. We all know it. Mr. non-Debater calls all those denying global warming members of the Flat-Earth Society. Ok, if that is true, then it is obvious that Mr. algore fell off its edge a long time ago. The crazy thing of it is he has millions willing to fall off with him.

Comment by cuyahogaman — July 18, 2008 @ 10:38 am
Liberal democrat pushed and passed "summer blends" account for a large percentage of the high price of fuel, even before this latest surge in prices. It is also responsible for outages in some areas as when Katrina knocked out some refineries in the gulf region. High taxes (a liberal love) is also responsible for a lot of the high price. I line in NC. I can go over into SC and sometimes get gas 30 cents cheaper because of a difference in taxes. SC has a lot less liberals because there's a lot of hardworking people there.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 10:39 am
Holy MACKREL! I didn't realize just how severe the current cooling trend really IS until I looked at the 5th order trend!

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/uah_june08_curvefits.png

Look at the how the negative SLOPE now is almost DOUBLE what is was in 1979! We're in for a LOT more cooling! (still no sunspots = all the more reason to think that). I won't be surprised if the total warming of the last century is WIPED OUT by 2010! (I'm a BSME machine designer and work with 5th order kinematic responses. Machine motion or earth's climate it matters not - neither can turn on a dime…)

Comment by Mike M — July 18, 2008 @ 10:39 am
It seems to me that a responsible news organization would completely ignore the ravings of the lunatic Gore.

Comment by David Drapkin — July 18, 2008 @ 10:41 am
Remember this: If Al's lips are moving, he's spouting whoppers. This one is the biggest! Why won't he debate those experts who oppose this bullpoopy?

Comment by Artful Dodger — July 18, 2008 @ 10:44 am
I am The Great and Mighty Al! I am The Profiteer of Doom! I have in my hand the name of 138 Republicans who are traitors to the earth! Who stole my raspberries? I will revoke your world citizenship! Mo money, mo money! Mama, we're all crazeeee now! Someone change my nappies!

Comment by Al Gore Jr. — July 18, 2008 @ 10:44 am
And this is saying something! Voinovich is usually considered a "moderate Republican"! Way to go George! I knew there was a reason I voted for you!

Comment by Will — July 18, 2008 @ 10:46 am
What alternate energy Libs? Wind power? You want
wind power? No you don't. Check this quote.

Environmentalists and landowners have launched protests against wind turbines from Cape Cod in Massachusetts to Idaho and Texas' South Padre Island, complaining that wind turbines spoil the view and threaten migrating birds.

What you want is a week America. Nothing less.

Comment by Buzz — July 18, 2008 @ 10:48 am
What do you mean, "finally snapped"? The guy is no different now than he has been since before 2000.

Comment by TxnByBrth — July 18, 2008 @ 10:49 am
I think we all can agree that Gore is a little bloated and blow-hard these days, but he's fundamentally right that we need to act fast to save our environment and quality of air. Using alternative energy sources that are renewable and free of emissions will be cost effective and improve quality of life. Why is this a political question, except that a few oil-funded Republicans have made it so? Many conservatives, especially libertarians, are totally on board with this basic premise.

Comment by Timmy — July 18, 2008 @ 10:50 am
KUDZO,
AL GORE couldn't even win his HOME state of Tennessee, and you're saying the election was stolen??? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by JD — July 18, 2008 @ 10:53 am
"If Al Gore had been in the White House, which he won in 2000, our country would not be in this dire mess today."

-Posted from Kudzu 7/14.

Really? First of all, nice American name. Second of all, REALLY? So what would your nice horse's a$$ of a VP would have done after 9/11? What would he have done to stop terrorism from occuring after 9/11? What would he have done PERIOD besides complain about the environment while the rest of the real world worries about such things as OUR WAY OF LIFE. When are you going to wake up and realize that a bunch of hypocritical bastards that people like you voted for are just leading you right over a cliff while they get fat and laugh at you. Wake up Kudzu.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 10:54 am
Buzz, I agree with you. I'm angry at Ted Kennedy on this, too. It's the same thing with people living on the coasts - the don't want drilling to spoil their views. But I do believe there are more environmentalists in favor of wind turbines than against.

Comment by Susan — July 18, 2008 @ 10:54 am
Hey Morpheus, what do you know about how many times the polar ice cap has melted…"FYI for the first time in history the Artic Ice pack will melt and you will be able to sail a boat over the North Pole!"

Have you ever looked at a well log? Most of the deviations on a well log are related to changing levels in seas. You know nothing about what has happened in previous warming and cooling cycles on this planet…do some research before espousing such innaccuracies.

Comment by J-Lo — July 18, 2008 @ 10:55 am
Timmy, you are not getting the difference between conservation, pollution, and focusing on carbon. You are also buying into the media propaganda that only oil company shills are against Gore. Check out petitonproject.org and the National Physical Association. By the way, the oil companies are on board and ready to profiteer as much as Gore. That's a complete straw man.

Comment by Joey Bats — July 18, 2008 @ 10:56 am
Dear Global Warming Dupes

It has come to my attention that there are not 1 but 2 volcanoes erupting under the Arctic Ice cap
it is therefore far more likely that these volcanoes are causing the unusual melting in the polar Ice caps.

It has further come to my attention that any time there is an increase in global volcanic activity there is a corresponding increase in global temperature such an increase in global volcanic activity began about 29 years ago with the eruption of Mount Saint Helens.

However we have been experiencing not global warming but rather global cooling over the last 10 years.

In History the earths Temperature has fluctuated wildly LONG Millenia before mankind entered the picture However Just since man has come on the Picture we had the Midevel Maximum a golden age of man occurred which saw Wine grapes grown in Northern England and then we had the Little Ice Age which cause an era we call the Dark ages and
several Plagues.

I Personally think anyone who buys into the Man made global warming HOAX is about as scientific as those who believed the moon is made of Green Cheese!!!!!

I have shown no animosity to the Hoaxter in chief Al Gore he is after all only being a good Capitalist in that he is looking after his own financial interests. He could care less that his "renewable energy" sources take food from the mouths of the POOR (Let them eat OIL)!!!

Comment by Richard — July 18, 2008 @ 11:00 am
All those people so negative about Gore's free from oil goal should pay a price other then at the pump.

Their children should be the only ones fighting in this or the next war to protect the right of Americans to drive Hummers.

Comment by Archie Haase — July 18, 2008 @ 11:00 am
The Technology of Light will become known when the Masters of Wisdom and Space Brothers emerge into the public arena, it has been said possibly within the next 20 years. This technology will supplant the need for any of the archaic polluting methods of energy generating. They will also instruct us and assist humanity in solving many of the ills we complain about but oft do no admit are the direct results of careless and ignorant actions borne of greed. Meanwhile, we should not sit back smoking cigars and saying no to new ideals (or ideas), but gain a common agreement that the problems are shared and solutions sought. btw: The Global Warming deniers are not doing scientific due dillegence, that's a reality.

Comment by Breakthrough Technology — July 18, 2008 @ 11:03 am
If Clinton wouldn't have outlawed high-sulfur coal backn in the early '90's this would not be an issue. High-sulfur coal reflects light off the upper atmosphere back into space thereby cooling the early a tad bit. Mark my words, when Yellowstone erupts, no one will be worried about Global Warming…

Comment by Matt — July 18, 2008 @ 11:04 am
Jesus did not die on the cross for me so that I have to drive a compact car and turn off the lights when I leave the room. Go GOP!

Comment by Voice of Reason — July 18, 2008 @ 11:05 am
Just a few of overhyped scares in the past 40 years.

1. Silent Spring,DDT was causing the entire food chain to de-link.
2. Landfill space was rapidly growing and would overrun all usable living area - This fear dissappeared after privatizing the solid-waste disposal business.
3. Overpopulation/population bomb - There was no way that agriculture could keep up w/population growth. Mass starvation was imminent - this bomb has been defused.
4. Governor Gloom Dick Lamm of Coloado declares everyone's duty to die, otherwise the planet could not sustain life as we know it by 1985.
5. Killer bees - what happened to them?
6. Dying oceans - Time magazine 1970 - Still living last time I checked.
7. Global cooling - NY times, Time magazine. - Man what a reversal! See notes at end.
8. Deforestation - no one seems to know that there are now more trees in the US than when it was settled
9. Swine flu - Got my shot and helped the Gov't contribute lots of tax money to the pharma co that developed the vaccine.
10. Bird flu - Did the numbers on this one. So far 250 people have died from it. God help us - it's killing 1 in every 240 million right now.
11. SARS virus - see item 10.
12. Acid rain - was going to melt every living thing by 1990.
13. Marine pollution - oceans would be dead by 1995, doggone oceans just keep cleaning themselves through natural processes. Why won't they cooperate?
14. River pollution - In the mid 70's one would have thought every river was oozing glop.
15. A. Toxic waste - Q. What is spewed from 99% of the news media.
16. Mutually assured destruction/nuclear winter - Thank you Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and most of all John Paul II for squashing this one.
17. Rainforest depletion - Darn trees just keep growing back.
18. World food shortage - see item 3.
19. Ozone depletion - By now, you should all be burnt to a crisp or mutated.
20. Cow methane - Should turn us all into vegans soon. Perhaps has a use as alternate fuel??
21. Who can forget y2k? - Sometimes I still laugh at this one. Some people are still eating tuna once a week to get rid of all they stockpiled.
22. Running out of resources - see items, 2,3,8,18.

The New York Times in 1895 predicted widespread global cooling. In 1924, the paper reported "Signs of New Ice Age."

In 1933, 1952, 1959, and 1969, the Times declared global warming.

Then in 1974 and 1975, the Times decided that the new ice age was coming, with catastrophic consequences: "the facts of the present climate change are such that the most optimistic experts would assign near certainty to major crop failure in a decade" leading to "mass deaths by starvation and probably in anarchy and violence."

The Washington Post announced a "New Ice Age" in 1970, and, in 1974, Fortune agreed, touting a scientist who predicted that a billion people would die from starvation caused by global cooling.

Time magazine declared global warming in 1939, global cooling in 1974, and currently believes in global warming.

Comment by GRinND — July 18, 2008 @ 11:06 am
As usual Al Gore is trying to bring more attention to himself rather than the energy situation,,,the Ideas and timeframe of Al's proposals are CRAZY,,,,After reading a few of the other comments regarding Al's speech I am laughing because it is usually the same thing.
People living with the biggest and the best of everything and I mean Al's Mansions, Jet Aircraft, Auotomobiles and whatever else he has
on hand that guzzles fuel, are always the ones telling everyone else what we must do…and Al is not alone there are others out there with the same means telling us the same thing…Some things never CHANGE……

Comment by Ken Long — July 18, 2008 @ 11:06 am
Folks, you are missing something: Only 5% of the US electricity is generated from Petroleum (oil products). See http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epat2p2.html

Comment by Stefan — July 18, 2008 @ 11:06 am
Al is right!!! I promise I will only use as much energy as Al Gore does in his mansion, SUV's, and private jets.

Comment by Brett — July 18, 2008 @ 11:11 am
When will the Spaced out Brothers save the planet again? I thought Al invented the Spaced out Brothers!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 11:12 am
Al Gore should take his homestead completely off the grid and complete all his travels using an electric car and public transportation. After he successfully does these 2 things, then I will listen to him preach energy savings.

Comment by Jeannie — July 18, 2008 @ 11:15 am
Shut up and drill!

Comment by GRinND — July 18, 2008 @ 11:16 am
Forgot item 23
23. We can't drill our way out of this.

Comment by GRinND — July 18, 2008 @ 11:18 am
I think that global warming is responsible for the global coolng that's going on now!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 11:18 am
To Timmy #479,

Algore is dangerous in the sense that he is conflicted up to his carbon-eyeballs with this hoax. Republicans do want a clean planet. It is like asking people if they would prefer living in the U.S.A or in Iran. Of course anyone would prefer living in the U.S.A. if they had any sense about them.

R's or conservatives are concerned about the environment. We just prefer to deal with it thru sound US government policy providing the proper incentives to that great engine of change, the free markets. We/R's don't want some bloated government agency cramming an algore/pelosi/reid one-sided global warming policy down our free-necks. We are the land of the free; algore and friends would change that forever. They, Al and company, are new-world order commies who want us to buy into this global warming hoax in the worst way. Now they call it climate change since people shoveling snow going into May are beginning to see that it is a hoax. So now they can't use the word "warming." Conservatives or R's see this as a hoax and we make fun of algore, but that does not mean we don't care for the environment. We just care about the environment AND THE U.S.A. That is a big difference from the algore tuna types.

There is a responsible way of going about it and right now it is to drill for more of our domestic oil and gas, increase nuclear based-energy, seek alternative energy sources that make economic sense given the current technologies, and incentivise the US market place for more R&D into new technologies for more and better alternatives. But to do nothing with the oil reserves we have domestically is really government malpractice and those holding it up should be thrown out of office. And no global tax! That is a communistic approach meant to bring down the US economy.

Comment by cuyahogaman — July 18, 2008 @ 11:19 am
Gore is not insane, he's a brilliant coniving businessman no different than the corporate big wigs he laments against in the oil industry. Since the end of his term in office he has amassed more than $100 million in personal fortune. The bulk of this has stemmed from his carbon trading company (scam) and his financial firm which provides start up capital to so called "green companies". The more aggressively we pursue "green" energies the wealthier he gets. It's a perfect cause; completely unprovable, very urgent sounding, riles up the activist community of enviromentalist who are willing to go to any lengths to have their way (see the Weathermen), if it cools down (already is) they'll be able to claim they're why it's cooled down, plus it brings out the elitist self important liberals who more or less own and control the media and our school systems so indoctrination into the beliefs is extremely easy. Really it has the structure of a great religious cult. Kudos Al, you'll bankrupt half of the civilized world leave 100's of millions impoverished, starve millions with your bio-fuel scam, and destroy the industrialized nations but damn you'll be rich. Good job, hope you enjoy hell con-man.

Comment by Stephen — July 18, 2008 @ 11:25 am
It's remarkable how out of touch the comments on this blog are. It's got to be all the FOX news. There are no main stream scientists that doubt global warming any more. The whole rest of the developed world is ready to make sacrafices to stop global warming.

VP Gore is an American Hero for championing this cause. In 10 years the people who have commented on this blog will look like the George Wallace supporters- of a previous era- brainwashed- afraid-and myopic.

Comment by V — July 18, 2008 @ 11:29 am
After an analysis of J Pickens energy plan, I calculated that we may need about a half million windmills on 40 or 50 million acres of land to supply energy just the U.S. home owners.

This does not include factories, shopping centers, apartments, condos, schools, churches, entertainment, or government buildings.

Since wind is old technology utilized by our ancestors in sailing ships, they had to have back up rowers as the wind only blew 40% of the time. Therefore, in addition to the windmills we will need to upgrade and add more gas/coal plants to support the windmills when the wind is not blowing, or when a Hurricane or Tornado (which occur regularly in states like Texas) rips out a few thousand wind mills. I also found out that windmills do not turn when the wind speed is greater than 40 miles per hour.

And last Al Gore might have missed this piece of news:
"American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming."

Shades of Global Freezing in the 1980's?

Comment by RJPJ — July 18, 2008 @ 11:31 am
Sen. Voinovich also thought it was a great idea for Ronald Reagan to remove the solar panels from the White House (that Carter had installed) as a symbolic gesture that the USA will always prefer and depend on oil.

Comment by John Barrett — July 18, 2008 @ 11:33 am
As Vice President, Gore was a bumbling, arrogant and not very bright bully. Now he's a bumbling, arrogant and not very bright bully with a Nobel prize in his pocket. His "documentary" was filled with half-truths and outright lies. Even some of the arctic scenes were digitally created in Hollywood. Why should anyone trust anything this loser has to say?

Comment by Owl Creek Observer — July 18, 2008 @ 11:34 am
The people who are pushing for more offshore and coal are just doing what they get paid to do. America uses 20 million barrels of oil a day. Even billions of more barrels would only last a relatively short time. We must develop renewables. The sooner we put all our efforts into that the better.

Comment by Nate — July 18, 2008 @ 11:36 am
I guess it just shows that Gore is as nutty as Pelosi.

Comment by Brandon Volner — July 18, 2008 @ 11:38 am
Reducing our dependence on foreign supplies is one issue, "man made global warming" is another. The need to solve the 1st issue is undeniable. The proponents of the man made global warming theory are ironically the very ones clouding the issue with unconfirmed science, political hype and hyperbole. If you care about this nation, isn't the 1st issue a stronger argument? Or is it more important to bash the U.S., Bush capitalism etc. Me thinks you show your true colors with the argument you choose to pursue.

Comment by ED — July 18, 2008 @ 11:39 am
Since the last energy crisis in the end of 70s (almost 30 years ago), we've had 20 years of Republican Presidents and 8 years of Democrats and not one has done anything to move us in a strategic direction away from dependence on oil. We are at the same point in energy policy that we were in 1979 when Carter proposed a major initiative. Nothing has been done since.

What does Voinovich propose …..more of the same?

Comment by John Barrett — July 18, 2008 @ 11:41 am
Thank the good Lord, that this snake oil salesman never became our President. He belongs in a mental institution. It's time for the men in the white coats to come and take this nutcase away!

Comment by Tom — July 18, 2008 @ 11:47 am
I think that it's funny that the people (real scientists) with whom Al shares his Nobel prize don't believe in MAN CAUSED global warming. What's even more hilarious is that anybody still believes Al! Talk about flat-earthers!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 11:51 am
Gore has lost the last of his sanity marbles. We have an abundance of coal in this country, so why are we not using it? If you were to do away with coal then what are the folks that heat with coal suppose to do? We certainly cannot afford to live like Gore?

Comment by mom — July 18, 2008 @ 11:53 am
We needed and need nuclear power. Nuclear is the only proven resource. Only public ignorance resists nuclear power, and believes CO2 is warming the globe. The problem is we voters, not the Democrats or Republicans.

Comment by Henry — July 18, 2008 @ 11:53 am
OK, I'm convinced. I hereby pledge to keep my energy consumption less than Al Gore's!

Comment by Russ — July 18, 2008 @ 11:55 am
Oh no! Someone invoked the name of his majesty Lord Jimmy Carter. YES, bring back double digit inflation and unemployment. Bring back calls for us to sacrifice, American hostages, no pride in our country…BRING BACK THE WORST PRESIDENT THAT WE'VE EVER HAD!!!
Sorry, my brain fell out and I had a liberal moment there for a minute. I've got my brain back now… thinking clear again!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 11:57 am
How does Gore earn a living? He is on the board of how many green companies? Gore has profited more than anyone else from the global warming propaganda. He has made so much money that he donates the small change to charities to make people think he gives away the money so he only talks about global warming for free, out his love and concern for mankind. fraud, poseur, snake oil salesman

Comment by jlllllll — July 18, 2008 @ 11:57 am
I'll bet we consume petroleum at a far greater rate than it is "renewed." Even if it wasn't destroying our environment, that's irresponsible.

Sure, weaning ourselves off of oil is going to change our lifestyles, but it has to be done sooner or later. We're going to run out someday at the rate we're using it.

Let's roll with the punches and innovate. The internal combustion engine is old technology. Surely we're smart enough to come up with a better and more responsible idea, aren't we?

When gas started getting expensive, I bought my wife a Prius hybrid. I parked my old Corolla, and commute by bicycle. In addition to losing 20 lbs, I am doing my part for the environment, and my gasoline bill is a very minor part of my budget.

Comment by tomch — July 18, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
Doesn't everyone realize we have been experiencing "Global Warming" since the end of the last ice age? Al needs to go back to his work on inventing useful items - like the internet……….

Comment by Bruce Carlson — July 18, 2008 @ 12:07 pm
Now have you heard Osamabama say.You can't expect to drive your SUVs and keep your house at 72 degrees and expect the rest of the world to be OK with it, thats not leadership.
Now we've got another liberal/socialist/communist on our hands. Where do these nutcases come from. Algore will be in the nervous hospital before long along with Pelosi,Reid and Osamabama,,,,,I HOPE….

Comment by BigArch — July 18, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
You all sound pretty tough, but dependence on foreign oil is what has made so many of the world's malcontents and bullies the richest jurisdictions on the planet. So you can laugh away at Al Gore while wicked people continue planning attacks on you and your government.

Comment by Beans — July 18, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
Pelosi needs to be removed from office. Tried for treason against her country. For lthe lie that frilling won't lower gas prices. For putting in jeopardy the Life, Liberty and the persuit of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

700 Billion going to countries who hate us and who kill their own people and want to kill you and me. Thousands of AMERICAN JOB's lost to middle eastern countries for what???????????????????????????

This is a crime against the American people and it has been happening for 30 years. Youve been sold out!!!!! Any government offical who tells you drilling won't bring down price should be removed from office and tried for crimes against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Comment by Jim - Chicago — July 18, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
You're right Henry. But I'm having a little trouble fitting my nuclear reactor in the trunk.

Comment by GRinND — July 18, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
Does anyone know the source of nuclear power and how long will that source last?

Comment by J-Lo — July 18, 2008 @ 12:11 pm
Simply because you don't like Al Gore / Al Gore is insane / Al Gore doesn't practice what he preaches does not mean man-made global warming does not exist and we don't need to be environmentally responsible. But 90% of you make Gore the point because you don't have one.

In the meantime, it's good to see so many of my countrymen are selfish, greedy babies that would gladly rape the planet that sustains us into oblivion all for cheap gas.

Comment by Sam — July 18, 2008 @ 12:12 pm
Hey Al, lead by example. Prove to the world it can be done. In 10 years eliminate the use of all fossil fuels in YOUR life. The world will be watching YOUR carbon footprint for the next ten years.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 12:12 pm
To V, no. 498 - you repeat the lies of the press and supporters of GW (gloabal warming not Bush). Quit espousing crap you read and do your own thnking:

In a posting to the APS forum, editor Jeffrey Marque explains,"There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution."

Comment by J-Lo — July 18, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
Hey dumbasses! If we drilled every square inch of ground in the USA and added 500 BILLION barrells of oil to the market it would do no good! You don't put raw crude in your gas tank. It has to be refined. WE CAN"T REFINE ANY MORE OIL THAN WE ALLREADY ARE!!! Doesn't matter how much raw petroleum you have it won't make more gas. Drilling in more places is bullshit and will not lower gas prices.

Comment by Roger — July 18, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
why listen to gore he lost the election.he can be bitter.listen to bush he has been right about the war and drilling in anwar.

Comment by joe alexich — July 18, 2008 @ 12:15 pm
If the ranting posters on here are an example of current American thought, then the US will be deader than Elvis in a few years. Ignoring the climate change debate for a moment, don't you people want cleaner energy so, I dunno, your kids don't have as much asthma & lung infections? Do you actually enjoy giving all your money to Arabs who spend it on big cars and saucy blonde escort girls? Do you want the next industrial revolution to bypass the US because you were too dim to realise green technologies will be a bigger industry than computing? What is wrong with your brains? Are you snorting the damn gasoline or something????

Comment by Frtiz — July 18, 2008 @ 12:18 pm
Algore is a moonbat and a rump swab. Let's see how the hurricane predictions go. According to Algore, the world will end with all sorts of hurricanes. It turns out that the weather patterns observed do not favor his "climate change stuff."

BTW, I use the words "climate change" on purpose. Notice the Algore does not mention global warming any more. That name change is the perfect way for this MOONBAT to cover his ass in case that it the "climate change" goes the other way." Beware!!!! He is smarter than what we think!!!!!

Comment by Bert in MA — July 18, 2008 @ 12:19 pm
Pelosi needs to be removed from office. Tried for treason against her country. For lthe lie that drilling won't lower gas prices. For putting in jeopardy the Life, Liberty and the persuit of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

700 Billion going to countries who hate us and who kill their own people and want to kill you and me. Thousands of AMERICAN JOB's lost to middle eastern countries for what???????????????????????????

This is a crime against the American people and it has been happening for 30 years. Youve been sold out!!!!! Any government offical who tells you drilling won't bring down price should be removed from office and tried for crimes against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
We can go to the moon but can't refine oil in 3 years- lay off the crack were AMERICANS.

Comment by Jim - Chicago — July 18, 2008 @ 12:19 pm
Gore is a peckerhead. What next mandatory fartbags to keep the methane out of our atmosphere?

Comment by Joe — July 18, 2008 @ 12:20 pm
Your funding the weapons that are killing your soldiers. 700 BILLION AMERICA wake up………….

Drill here DRILL NOW

Create AMERICAN JOBS NOW

Democrats support terrorism

Comment by Jim - Chicago — July 18, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
I just happened by this site and posting today. I admit I have severe negative personal opinions about the conservative point-of-view…But, the majority of these postings, in response to Al Gore's speech, the person and the whole topic of global warming, leave me with a sense of despair; given the common tone of hate, fundamentalism and fear of innovation. Sadly, should Gore's prognostications bear fruit, these are the same people who will find ways to capitalize and control these new technologies and businesses at the expense of the rest of us.

Comment by JonT — July 18, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
I'm an elitest and I say so thats why…

Comment by Elitest — July 18, 2008 @ 12:24 pm
Kudzu, get a grip… and while you're at it, try brushing up on the Constitution. Al will be Al - problems only occur when people lend him credence, which the hypocritical fool has none of. Hopefully the Toto will soon pull back the curtain and we'll all discover we're no longer in Kansas.

Comment by Al Sharpton — July 18, 2008 @ 12:26 pm
Wake up republicans!!! Dinosaurs are biblical demons (look at their skelitons). using OIL (the black blood of demons) is SATANIC ALCHEMY.

I know Republicans text satanic messages to their pages, and have satanic intercourse in public bathrooms, and do satanic business deals with mafia boss jack abramoff. But poisoning the world with DEMONIC BLACK BLOOD is turning the planet into HELL!!!! Its too much! Republicans need jesus!

Comment by ginsu — July 18, 2008 @ 12:30 pm
Gore is full of _hit!!!!!!!! When will we learn to ignore this jerk. You know he has his hands in alot of pockets on this one. Its time to cuts the hands off.

Comment by Tony — July 18, 2008 @ 12:31 pm
Notice that the left always uses colors… first they were "reds" now they are "greens". But mostly they are just yellow. Al Gore is a con man who has made a fortune on the biggest scam the world has ever bought into. He is a liar and a coward, notice the fact that he refuses to debate his position with anyone because facts will always trump a scam artist.

Comment by Constance Potts — July 18, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
JonT,
By your post it is easy to see that you are a true lib….believe all the B.S. that is shovelled by the Dem's so that they can tax us to death! Get over your "dispare" and wake up to the fact that most "conservatives" want more oil drilling in the US, additional refining capacity, much higher investment and implementation of "alternative" energy sources, which includes nuclear, clean burning coal, wind, solar, hydrogen, etc. We must have a multi-pronged approach to this to succeed. Not allowing drilling, elimination of coal-fired plants, etc. is a losing proposition that is being promoted by the likes of Nancy Piglosy in an effort to take more of our tax payer dollars. You need to wake up to reality and quit believing everything your party is promoting.

Comment by Tim S. — July 18, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
If you think burning fossil fuels isnt dangerous, put your kid at the top of a coal burning smokestack at your electricity company and let them breathe that in for 24 hours. Then have a doctor check his health and tell me using fossil fuels for electricity isnt a problem.

Comment by Anthony — July 18, 2008 @ 12:40 pm
Jon T, I hate to spoil your little fear party but it's Al Gore who stands to make a fortune off of the false "man made global warming" scam (he already is). Don't worry, you libs will tax us to death on any new technologies that come forth so you'll be able to fund more fear mongering!!!
Look at your post… "severe negative", "sense of despair", "tone of hate", "fear", "sadly", you liberals are all gloom and doom. Your side is the violent, intolerant side, don't try to kid yourself. I would feel MUCH safer if my child were carrying a liberal sign in a crowd of conservatives (he's too smart to carry a liberal sign, this is only an example) than if he were carrying a conservative sign in a crowd of liberals. Liberals are the most intolerant people (next to the Taliban) on earth!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
algore !

doing a great job cutting back on his Carbon Footprint !

from the SIZE of him appears he is saving Electric KW not using his Treadmill !

now a FAT Slob !

Comment by Client # 10 — July 18, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
Hey ginsu, you're a freakin moron!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 12:44 pm
Anthony,
It appears that you believe all of the crap being presented to you by the media. If you are that fearful of all of this horrible pollution in the US then I have a suggestion for you:

Sell your car and ride a bike, cut off your gas and electrivity in your home, eat only food that you have grown in your yard (organic of course), do not use the phone, computer, cell phone etc. (these all contribute to pollution) and then convince the other 300 million people in the US that they need to do the same so that our air will be cleaner.

You are obviously a moron.

Comment by Tim S. — July 18, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
If A. Gore had been making similar statements in his recent presidential bid, he would not have even won his home state, Tennessee. No! Wait a second! I forgot, he didn't win Tennessee in that election.

Comment by L Johnson — July 18, 2008 @ 12:47 pm
Notice how it's always 10 years. Too far away to see any immediate effects, and far enough away for most people to forget.

Comment by Paul Shafer — July 18, 2008 @ 12:47 pm
Gore is an idiot, and a serious threat to the economic security of this country. Democrats must be crazy! Liberal/Environmentalist proponents of all these "green" schemes demand the American people accept the cost and lower standard of living they represent out of one mouth, and file law suits preventing the creation of large scale energy projects with the other! Just try and make your own bio-diesel, or erecting your own windmill, or trowing up a thousand acres of solar panels on Uncle Fred's old farm. After all the law suits and red tape are handled, MAYBE your great grandkids will think about you when they throw the switch.

Comment by Eric — July 18, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
al gore is almost as big a joke as the morons who take him seriously. ridiculous is the perfect word.

Comment by frintzle — July 18, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
(#498) Posted by V: [It's remarkable how out of touch the comments on this blog are. It's got to be all the FOX news. There are no main stream scientists that doubt global warming any more. The whole rest of the developed world is ready to make sacrafices to stop global warming.]

NO MAIN STREAM SCIENTISTS? ! ? You are EXTREMELY UNinformed! It's LIBERAL main stream media who will NEVER allow the MAJORITY of scientists who do NOT think CO2 has anything to with global warming to be heard. The ONLY place you find their opinions are here on line where liberals cannot stop them. Links to get you started on the path to the TRUTH:

petitionproject.org/ (Over 9000 PHD's! with FORTY members of the National Academy of Science)

icecap.us/
http://www.globalwarmingheartland.org/

wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/

geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html
(eye opening and take their informative test)
geocraft.com/WVFossils/GlobWarmTest/start.html

Comment by Mike M — July 18, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
Anthony you leave the clear impression that you have an intellect about equal to a small bucket of rocks. The only difference is that a bucket of rocks will sit there and listen to an opposing point of view.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
Dear Tim,
I never said I dont use electricity. I am merely acknowledging the fact that buring coal releases harmful pollution. And by the way, I use about 3 gallons of gasoline a month. You? The US has 5% of the worlds population, and uses 25% of its energy. People who are energy hogs are naturally Republicans, as they want to burn as much oil as possible. As to the earlier post about how liberals are the intolerant ones, look at all the name calling done by the conservative posts versus the liberal ones…quite telling who the more intelligent, civil party is. A Republicans solution to any problem is to give every household an assault weapon and burn more oil. I would love to see gasoline at $9.50 a gallon in the US like it is throughout Europe. Get the hicks and their gun rack equipped SUVs off the road.

Comment by Tim S's mom — July 18, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
I knew Al Gore was a charlatan. But, I thought he was at least smart enough not to expose himself as a clown.

This absurd call to produce all of our electricity via wind, solar, and what– leftover McDonald's grease– in ten years is absurd on its face.

We've had a thirty-four years warning since the energy crisis of '74 that we should adapt a mixed source strategy so that we are never again dependent on any one energy source.

And, certainly nuclear power has to be a major component in the mix. The French get 85% of their electricity from nukes. WE could get a major proportion of ours that way as well.

Comment by Robert Chandler — July 18, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
Funny how the Democrats who claim the Republicans are in bed with "big energy" and "oil companies" and all that are also the ones now promoting the lies about global warming and creating tons of new business for "green" companies (who, as per standard business / political relations, will throw their new found power and money into supporting those who brought them the power and money). Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black!

Comment by timr — July 18, 2008 @ 12:54 pm
Oil is dinosaur blood. T-rex is a biblical demon. Pteradactyls are biblical demons.

Demon blood must be stopped! Oil enriches terrorist like chavez and fattens followers of the false prophet like leeches. Stop Satanic oil before it turns the planet to hell on earth.

Texaco has a pentagram as its logo. A PENTAGRAM!

Comment by ginsu — July 18, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
I wish AlGore's creativeness hadn't been used up inventing the internet.

Now is when we need him to invent cold fusion or something to solve the energy crises he helped cause with his house.

Comment by DoubleDeckerPecker — July 18, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
Hey Mike M, you are forgetting one important thing: liberals don't want facts! How on earth can they fool their sheep if they use facts? I know, you forgot for a minute. You just can't use facts in an argument with a liberal, they don't know what facts are anyway!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 12:58 pm
I work in the energy industry. Electricity to be exact and our grid is so jumbled that to do what Gore wants would mean to rewire the entire grid to have all the same equipment. This would take 25-30 years and none of it would matter in the end because we need oil to run our vehicles. What about all the people who have just bought new vehicles? What are they supposed to do? Take them to the dealership and demand windmills be put on them? Honest, Al Gore is using Junk Science and he's about to be sued by a weather expert who knows that he's taking America for a ride. I just can't believe there are so many who want to join him. This warming is cyclic and let's tell those people in Minnesota, Ohio and the rest of the nation who were buried under many feet of snow that there's global warming. I don't think they quite believe it. If you want to believe in an idiot, please do but it's been proven that he used special effects from Sci-Fi movies and other footage from years ago to support his delusion.
He is a sad, irrelevant man who is just trying to get attention and now he's rich because his company is the one selling carbon credits. He's made his own market. When I see him practicing what he preaches, I'll go ahead and listen, until then, he gets no one red cent of my money. Lead by example, Al

Comment by Marcia — July 18, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
I am now age 60. When I was growing up it was global cooling that was the scare of the time, said based on the one sun we have was burning out like all fires do, and as manay other suns have already done. Check around, suns burn out, that would make us COOLER!

Comment by Tom Benson — July 18, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
To the person that wants $9.50 a gallon gas…please move to the EU and you can experience that immediately. Haven't you figured out why the EU is the way it is….high taxes!!!

Please get more informed as to what is really going on in the world…you are embarassing the rest of us "informed" Americans!

Also, just so you know, the US has clean burning coal technology that virtually eliminates all of the pollution that you are referring to, but guess what, your Dem's have place several barriers up that have halted the expansion of these types of power plants. And a bit more info that you may or may not know…the US is like "Saudi Arabia" when it comes to coal. Not saying this is the answer to all of our woes, but can be PART of the solution just like other clean burning technologies.

I guess you just wnat to pay more taxes…boyu you must have a lot of $$. Can you spare some??

Comment by Tim S. — July 18, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
We all think we're capable of being God and can change nature or have changed our worlds environment. We might as well blame the sea itself or the sun. You and I can act reasponcibly. We can drive our cars for 20 years therefore not having to have a new car built which takes much energy. We can live in small homes which take less energy, We can shave with a bar of soap rather than an aresol. We can eat only as much food as we need and the type we need rather than gourmet & more than our bodies want. Show me those that are doing what they preach and I will consider what they preach.

Comment by Myron — July 18, 2008 @ 1:01 pm
Wow, is ginsu a nut job or what???

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
Wonder what Owl is smoking, must be some good stuff.

Comment by Glenn — July 18, 2008 @ 1:03 pm
I would love to see gasoline at $9.50 a gallon in the US like it is throughout Europe. Comment by Tim S's mom

You are one the people who dispise America because we have too much, we are too powerful, don't pay enough taxes and we are certainly not as smart as the europeans and paticularly the liberals. You want America to suffer, have less, give California back to Mexico, and never use any natural ressource that might disturb another of God's creatures. Not that you believe there is a God.

You are a pathetic loser just like your leader Al Gore. If you want to pay $9.50 a gallon, go to Europe and take Al with you. America will be a better place for it.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 1:04 pm
Al Gore is a homegrown terrorist that will do his best to destroy from within the country that did not elect him to be pres. We must unite as citizens of this great country to totally eradicate his terroristic fearmongering.

Comment by MontanaJoe — July 18, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
Apocalypse aside, Gore�s message is powerful. I support him. Renewable non-fossil-fuel energy should be our next �Moon Landing� �earth-friendly energy will bring the U.S.A. strength! Who among you can honestly say that you�re comfortable with current and projected world power balance? From the other post here I can only guess that your cars get better gas mileage than mine does. Let�s make another �GIANT LEAP� for mankind. Go USA!

Comment by Sime — July 18, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
Myron, come on now. Liberals don't practice what they preach, that's why they have to steal money from us (I mean tax us) to fund these things.

If all the smart liberals stopped using gasoline completely, that would be an extra 200 to 300 gallons a year for the rest of us.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
Let's face it, with the Democratic congress silently passing Gore's initatives, we the middle class and poverty class people will be footing the bill for this individuals lie. The people that are supposed to be listening to the people and doing what they want, are doing politics and completely ignoring the working people for the elites and environmentistalis, neither having a clue. We are going to pay dearly through all kinds of taxes. Starting soon!

Comment by Ron T. — July 18, 2008 @ 1:07 pm
Global warming may be happening as it has happened in the past but man is not the cause. We need to scale down oil usage so that we are not at the mercy of the opec nations. We have to do it gradually as the technology allows. Look what using food stock for biofuel has done the the price of food. Al Gore is is an Eco-communist who wants to use the environment to control owr lives since communism failed.

Comment by Chris — July 18, 2008 @ 1:08 pm
I really don't what else to say to idiots that believe Al Gore other than to ask them PRODUCE ONE convincing piece of scientific evidence that human CO2 causes global warming.

As of right now - you have NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that you claim for proof. The only thing you have is data from computer model projections. The data used in those models have been proven to be flawed. The coefficients used for various parameters in the scant amount of real physics used in the models have little or no basis in reality. The scope of the modeling leaves out much of the effect/response of water vapor, (over 90% of the greenhouse effect is from water vapor), ignores important new science in regard to plant biology and dismisses rock solid historical accounts concerning past climate in the near past, (such as the medieval warming period).

On the other hand, we deniers DO have evidence contrary to your alarmist position. 1. Vostok Ice core samples show that all past global warming events, (as far back as those go), PRECEDED increases of CO2. Therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE that those were initiated by CO2.

2. The current temperature trend for the last 11 years is DOWN - not up. That's CONTRARY to the IPCC who said that human CO2 was 'very likely' to be cuasing global warming… they were WRONG! The head of the IPCC admits it too! (he has no choice - he's been caught with his pants are down)

3. Only during ONE other relatively period in our known geologic past have BOTH CO2 and temperature been low, and as low as they are - AT THE SAME TIME. That happened about 280 million years ago. The average of both CO2 and temperature for out planet over the last 500 million years is MUCH higher than they are now.

Comment by Mike M — July 18, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
Ron T. if you want it to get WAY worse, wait until Osama is president!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
Sorry, I meant Obama bin Laden!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
I am quite interested in the science that has disproven global warming. The consensus is that it is happening. The debate about how much is man made is legitimate. There is no debate that human activity is dramatically changing the earth. Toxic levels of pollutants are found in Greenland, the Pacific Northwest has rising mercury levels related to China's industrial activity, we have destroyed much of our wetlands and now they are finding they are very difficult to recreate. The ocean has been over utilized. The salmon aren't running up most of the west coast and we have nearly lost a "free" resource.
Gore is over the top and unfortunately his own behavior doesn't match his rhetoric but that is pretty typical of both sides. How many chicken hawking, philandering, homosexuals are on the other side?
We DO have to change our ways and it will be a mixed bag. I personally think that we should completely move to energy star appliances, green building practices with only high efficiency appliances, heaters, etc…. High R-value construction. We need to look at more people working from home, 4 day work weeks, better public transportation, etc…
Since when did conservation become a liberal nut cake value? Our energy use is one of the leading causes of our national debt and our security issues. Let's become energy independent through a variety of means. And we are not going to drill our way out of this as T.Boone says, there is a limited amount of oil and at best we delay the inevitable for a decade or two.

Comment by dabouv — July 18, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
Sime, what EXACTLY is so 'earth unfriendly' about CO2?

I bet you can't answer that …

Comment by Mike M — July 18, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
(547, Tim S's mom )

I've heard enough of this 5% using 25%. Hmm, let's see Norway has less than 1/1000th the world's poulation and how much energy do they use? If we go by that measure there are lots of tiny nations that will fail the test…do you hate them too as you so obviously (as most liberals) hate your own country?

Comment by J-Lo — July 18, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
This demonstrates how little Gore knows about
developing new (and existing) energy sources.
With all the government licensing requirements,
it's impossible to get effective sized projects on line in less than ten years. This doesn't include
numerous delays caused by lawsuits which will surely be filed by environmental groups. Anyhow, global warming is a fraud!

Comment by pappyd — July 18, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Pelosi needs to be removed from office. Tried for treason against her country. For lthe lie that drilling won't lower gas prices. For putting in jeopardy the Life, Liberty and the persuit of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

700 Billion going to countries who hate us and who kill their own people and want to kill you and me. Thousands of AMERICAN JOB's lost to middle eastern countries for what???????????????????????????

This is a crime against the American people and it has been happening for 30 years. Youve been sold out!!!!! Any government offical who tells you drilling won't bring down price should be removed from office and tried for crimes against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
We can go to the moon but can't refine oil in 3 years- lay off the crack were AMERICANS.

Comment by Jim - Chicago — July 18, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
dabouv :"Since when did conservation become a liberal nut cake value?"

Since that moment when the liberals bastardized it to advance their agenda for socialism that does not benefit society - it only benefits those who administer it.

Energy conservation is extremely simple - apply FREE MARKET CAPITALISM! DRILL! REFINE! (Both are now clean technologies. FACT- Not ONE of hundreds of oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico leaked oil after being demolished by hurricane Katrina.)

Comment by Mike M — July 18, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Ginsu:
Stick to knives and stop reading your strange bible. Hell on earth is perception and your's is strange. You should just read the real bible and quit trying to demonize something made by Mother Nature. By the way, Texaco's sign is a Star. It's not satanic and the Pentagram isn't satanic either. It's a sign developed by druids who were the first priests of the land. You should take your meds and stop seeing things that don't exist. There is help for you. You just have to seek it out.

Comment by Marcia — July 18, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
Since when did conservation become a liberal nut cake value? Comment by dabouv

It is not a liberal nut cake value since they have no values. The liberals mantra is do as I say and pay for it, not as I do.

Look at Al Gore and his "carbon footprint" it has gotten signficantly larger in the past year, not smaller. He payed $30,000. for his February utility bill. What did YOU pay? Then he has the audacity to lecture the typical American about energy usage. Liberals are the worst kind of Hypocrites.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 1:23 pm
Gore is deranged and dangerous. He's dangerous because he has the networks and the print media on his side. As Joseph Goebels, Hitler's Propaganda chief has said, "If you tell a lie often enough, pretty soon it becomes the truth."

I wonder if Gore keeps two little steel balls in his pocket like Captain Queeg of Caine Mutiny fame.

Comment by Joe Gerardi — July 18, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
Al Gore: an embarrassment to all self respecting GRIFTERS…. Go sell your SNAKEOIL elsewhere you filthy CON man

Comment by Jerold Robinson — July 18, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
I don't believe so many people have so much faith in this "alternative energy." Solar and wind power is nice, but the power output is very low. If people want to continue the way they live, massive amounts of coal will be burning.

Comment by Joe — July 18, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
I need help understanding… When Mt. Pinatubo errupted it realeased more CO2 into the air than the combustion engine ever has. So how did man cause Mt. Pinatubo to errupt? Weren't the land masses on the planet essentially created by volcanic activity?

I'm confused…

Comment by bgates1970 — July 18, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
dabouv, the RIGHT way to do this is through tax incentives and "rewards" to drive the search for new technology and alternate fuels. The LEFT way is to tax us into submission. Contrary to the lies from the left, most conservatives aren't against ending our dependence on oil, insuring clean oceans and air; we just have a totally different view on how to arrive at that.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Another member of the Council on Foreign Affairs putting us in the fear mode: war on drugs, war on terror, war on global warming, etc. When are people going to wake up to this diaelectical fear mongering? This is being done to set up future radical government action so the end result is the destruction of whatever freedom and choices we the people have left. Peel back the propagandized reality and see the Truth.

Comment by Zen Z. — July 18, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
I think Gore is truly psychotic and has gone off the deep end. The thing that I don't understand is how the mainstream media continue to swallow everything that he says as if it's truthful. It is truly mind boggling!

Comment by Andy — July 18, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
I want to take a solar-powered airplane ride with Uncle Al………at night!

Makes as much sense as dimpled chads….

Comment by Prudence — July 18, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
dabouv, the RIGHT way to do this is through tax incentives and "rewards" to drive the search for new technology and alternate fuels. Comment by Jack Waldrop

The right way to do it is to stay out of the way of private enterprise. Every time you get government involved as the liberal wackos love to do, it corrupts the process and like a parasite, attaches itself to the enterprise. You never get something for nothing from government.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 1:43 pm
Does Al Gore, or anyone else for that matter, even know what the temperature of the earth is SUPPOSED to be right now? The answer is NO!! None of us know because it is always changing and has always changed. Long before man ever got here and long after we are gone, the earth will continue to change. Al Gore is an idiot.

Comment by Buzz — July 18, 2008 @ 1:43 pm
If what Gore says is true then he should have no problem in getting the private sector to invest in his ideas. But as is so much Al Gore his ideas like him - are empty suits.

Comment by cluelessinky — July 18, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
It's whats wrong with this country, 99% of people lack imagination, will power and ingenuity. Keep your heads buried in the sand people, when you come up for air you will be there to see the entire country foreclosed on by the Intl conglomerates and nations that are buying up this country right in front of us. Buy hey as long as you have your big screen, SUV and your X-box its all cool right. You need to wake up and realize this country is under attack and Al Gore is correct, if we wanted to do this, we could. But hey its easier to make fun of him instead. You are all fools.

Comment by Spencer — July 18, 2008 @ 1:45 pm
And what great idea has anyone else come up with? Sen. Voinovih, instead of bitching, step up to the plate and say something constructive.

Comment by eg — July 18, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
What planet does Spencer live on? Al Gore is a fake and anybody that buys into his BS is a complete idiot. We've been proving that all day and now another sheep (Spencer) comes along and drinks the kool aid!! Hey Spencer, did you hear that driving an SUV causes sunspots? If you send me $50 I'll put a stop to them. We can wipe out sunspots in your lifetime!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 1:50 pm
Spencer is away… writing my $50.00 check!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 1:51 pm
Al Gore made 100 million dollars last year in his Global Warming scam. He sees this as only the tip of the iceberg. Get off fossil fuels completely in 10 years? How do you expect to fly your your jet around the world three times a month, Al? Convert it to electric/hybrid?

Comment by Dave — July 18, 2008 @ 1:51 pm
A couple of posters have suggested that the American Society of Physicists does not support Al Gore's global warming position. That is false - they agree with Al. http://www.aps.org/

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 1:52 pm
Wow, what a bunch of nuts on this site. Private enterprise isn't perfect. We don't have hemp because of private enterprise. Anyone here familiar with "the Jungle" by Sinclair. Private enterprise is not the only answer. Why not let everyone dump whatever in the rivers and lakes, that is what used to happen. Why have safety standards, I mean China still has a lot of people even after the earthquake killed 10,000's.
We don't pay the real price of gas now. How much of our national defense budget goes to securing oil? Why not lower our other taxes and make that part of the price of oil?
Both sides are wacked. The reps want to give everything to the .01% and the left wants to reward those who don't work.

Comment by dabouv — July 18, 2008 @ 1:52 pm
Al Gore is one person. He uses at least 1,000 times the energy the average person uses. This is completely lost on the news media, isn't it.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
The APS as a body still supports the IPCC, but its membership is not unified on this position. Mars warmed up also…how many SUVs tool around mars?

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 1:55 pm
Yes, I'm a registered Democrat. I guess I'm considered one of the Reagan democrats. I didn't leave the party, the party left me. So, that said, I think Gore and this global warming is the biggest scam in history. After reading many of these post, although it has been mentioned time and time again, the lefties think all the right wants is oil. That is not true. The right is saying give me the alternatives, but don't stop taking our own oil. It is the left that only wants alternative sources but can not seem to compromise on the need to keep drilling locally in the meantime until a time that makes it economically feasible to switch. Which should be done is a slow and steady fashion. Leaving our oil in the ground is not going to do anyone any good except to let a few feel good about themselves. We need it now so we CAN stop sending our money to the terrorist.

What I'm really ticked off at is that we started building personal computers approximately 30 years ago. About the same time we started building solar panels. Now we have, or just about have, a computer in every home. And I would say every one of those computers sold today have more power than the super-computers had when we first started building the personal computer. Now, if we can put a super-computer in every home, why couldn't we have solar panels on every home? We can send rovers to Mars and they last years past what they were expected to because of the solar panels keep recharging. Now, I know that putting solar panels on homes would not take every home off the power grid. But it would reduce our energy cost. Big time. It would even reduce the energy cost of those that could not afford to put panels on their home. i.e. because every home may not benefit due to the cost versus power savings. Hell, they are putting them on tents now that can power a complete command center for the military or Red Cross or any other entity that needs to setup such a site. They're putting them on RVs so electical connections are not needed to setup camp. They are now even starting to put them on the Toyota Prius to help power the air-conditioners recharge it batteries. Why then, are they not on every home. I'll tell you why, because power companies don't want anyone giving away free power. They prevent it by having their lobyist pay off our politicians. Both parties are bought. Subsidies are put in place to keep cost artifically high until the power companies can position themselves in a way that will allow them to take advantage of the change. Or, until they can come up with an alternative that they can capitialize on it. Seems Gore has already beat the Power companies to it. That's why we are seeing a power struggle between those that already control the power and energy game to those that want control of it. As one mentioned above, follow the money.

Comment by RegisteredDem — July 18, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
Consensus my cooling ass. There are thousands of real weather scientists who want a debate on this issue. To claim there is agreement on this issue is a complete lie. The Earth's temperature has not increased, and may have decreased somewhat, over the last 7-8 years, contrary to the alarmist's claims. More importantly, even if the temperature is rising, the debate is whether it is because of the activities of evil, expendable humans or due to the influence of, imagine this, the sun's activity! When these full-of-themselves environuts prove they can stop a tornado, hurricane, earthquake or other devastating storm from inflicting damage, then I'll believe we can change the "climate" by switching out our light bulbs. Such hubris.

Comment by Jeff T — July 18, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
Welcome dabouv. You, simply by your presence, have added another nut to this site.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 2:00 pm
Just more ideas for tyranny. We need to get off oil, but ignoring vast reserves of natural gas and promoting Nuclear power and windmills just won't do it in 10 years. Why does no politian mention that the biggest change needed to combat global warming is to change our diet? Yes becoming vegitarian is the biggest thing any of us can do to save the planet. Cows create 1/3 of all methane released, not to mention farm waste fouling streams and rivers or that it takes 16 times more farm land to feed a meat eater. Guess we'd rather give up our cars than our steak

Comment by Allen Hoffmann — July 18, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
Critics of Al Gore: Get a clue!

You don't have to believe in global warming! It's not the point.

If you have complained about the cost of gas, there's your clue. We are at the mercy of oil-rich countries and paying them billions of dollars that do not come back to us.

Want to see where your money is going? Check out this slide show:
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/03/dubai/index_01.htm

And, no, the likes of us (including _you_) will not be staying at those hotels or resorts. Your only connection with them is to send money to fund them and their customers.

But are you interested in Gore's recommendation that we give up oil? Oh, no. Buying gasoline is too much fun!

Your opposition to giving up oil is interesting. I'd love to hear how you think addiction to oil is going to play out over the long haul!

Comment by m00ndog — July 18, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
Wow Voinovich actually got something right - it's a miracle

Comment by Ted — July 18, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
If you read the APS forum you'll see quite an argument criticising the IPCC.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:02 pm
Bob - there will always be individuals who disagree with any particular scientific finding. However, the fact remains there is a very strong scientific consensus that human-caused global warming is real.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 2:02 pm
Al Gore should be embarrassed by his exaggerations. I'm not afraid to take on "global warming" so long as there is "global warming" and it is proven to be a real threat. Just because Gore says it is, does not make it real. Al Gore lives by the $$, and his pathetic news conferences earn him big bucks. Ask how many windmills and solar powered plants he has a stake in. He is no fool, but he sure has made fools out of a lot of people. Al Gore is a dangerous man. He won't debate. He just makes statements and demands that his word be the "last word" on his favorite subject matter. What an egotist and a false prophet.

Comment by Gore-Flim Flam Man — July 18, 2008 @ 2:02 pm
Bob,

I am a republican. I think we probably stand somewhere different on some issues, but thank you for thinking. Not all democrats are brain dead…thanks for the proof. I like what you said in the first paragraph of 591.

I think you and I could run for Congress and get something done! Imagine that.

Comment by Josh — July 18, 2008 @ 2:05 pm
Let's remember that never in human history have we stopped looking for a new form of energy.
- oil/gas
- whale oil, vegetable oil, etc.
- coal
- wind
- wood/peat
- water pressure
- sun
- animal/human power
- static energy (electricity)
Anyone who firmly stands by the belief that all we need to do as a nation to bring down our energy costs is to simply drill for more oil and mine for more coal is forgetting the entire course of human history has been shadowed by our search for alternative fuel sources.

If anything, Gore is simply speaking a self-evident truth… we need to produce the means to increase our energy production in a variety of ways.

Google "energy history"… and get an education!

Comment by Cullen — July 18, 2008 @ 2:06 pm
It's too late, m00ndog drank the kool aid! I wonder if I can get him to send me $50.00 to stop sunspots? I bet I can…

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 2:07 pm
I have a degree in electronics. I took it upon myself to learn enough about chemistry and physics to understand the global climate issue. The IPCC is playing fast and loose with the truth and so is Al Gore. How many scientist are in this world? What constitutes a scientist? The news media cannot answer those simple questions…but continues to say "most scientist agree"…the news media is not a reliable source of factual information.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:10 pm
Bob - i have a degree in Physics and another degree in Computer Science - so what? I am not a climatologist. I tend to listen to the experts in that field who overwhelmingly support Al Gore's position.

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
To all the democrat and Al Gore believers out there who keep thinking that it's either alternative energy or paying $4 a gallon to Arab nations, NEWS FLASH:

The price of oil is based on speculation.

The United States has 7 times the amount of oil that Saudi Arabia does in shale. That does not include offshore pockets or anything in Alaska.

Because the market is driven by speculation, if we drill for our own oil, the price will drop.

If you think this will take 10 years, you are wrong because oil is priced on futures. Did oil drop $18 in 3 days because someone somewhere started making billions more barrels a day and flooded the market? NO! President Bush lifted the presidential ban on offshore drilling and immediately after it dropped $18.

The offshore drilling ban which was lifted did absolutely nothing to further us being able to drill oil because Congress has to do the same thing. However, even though realistically it did nothing, it left the investors shaking in their boots at the possibility of future drilling and American independence.

I'm also tickled by the person who thinks that we'll be able to sale a boat over the north pole for the first time in history this summer. Perhaps the first time since we started keeping records. However, history is millions of year. Core samples in the arctic show temperatures thousands of years ago being much higher than they are now. Get a clue.

Comment by Josh — July 18, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
Tom W. … A LARGE number of APS members, possibly a majority question the IPCC. I did the math, I know how, the IPCC's claims DO NOT ADD UP. The computer models does not work without fudging the data…that is the basis of the APS's argument with the IPCC. I don't think most of the people on this forum have read the APS paper. How do you explain the raising of temps on other planets in our system? The IPCC seams oblivious to that dynamic star we call the Sun.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:16 pm
The majority of these posts restore my faith in the intelligence of the American people (not to mention our friends abroad who express similar skepticism about MMGW). All of you who recognize the 'man-made global warming' fraud for what it is are to be commended. For those Al Gore True Believers, look into the financials of the companies hawking 'carbon financial instruments' as I have as part of my job, and you will see that they are a huge scam, and Al Gore is one of the biggest beneficiaries. Europe has already recognized this. Getting the world's economy off of oil is liking getting the human body off of blood. Can't be done and shouldn't be done. Global warming is natural and man couldn't increase it or decrease it if he wanted to. Only self-obsessed, hugely arrogant Liberals really believe it can be. 50,000 REAL scientists (the American Physical Society) are issuing a paper challenging anthropogenic global warming. See http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm

Comment by Bill — July 18, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
There is NO logical argument for not drilling in our own country. NONE I don�t care if it doesn�t lower gas prices a single cent at least we won�t be sending $700 billion a year to our enemies in Saudi Arabia and Venezuela our money will be going to American corporations that pay tens of millions of Americans dividends and fund our pensions and our IRAs so what�s wrong with that!!!!

Who�s for energy independence? Here�s the Democrats voting record on increasing energy exploration, drilling, refining, and coal to oil conversion here at home as opposed to buying our energy from foreign sources.

ANWR Exploration
House Republicans: 91% Supported
House Democrats: 86% Opposed

Coal-to-Liquid
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 78% Opposed

Oil Shale Exploration
House Republicans: 90% Supported
House Democrats: 86% Opposed

Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) Exploration
House Republicans: 81% Supported
House Democrats: 83% Opposed

Refinery Increased Capacity
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 96% Opposed

And let�s not forget Democrats have blocked the building of every nuclear power plant in our country for the past 40 years hence our need to build coal fired plants in the first place! This can also be added to their energy independence insanity list.

This voting record is startling, look at that again. Put another way, the Republicans are opposed to grinding our economy to a halt due to soaring energy and gas costs and the Democrats are in favor of shutting down our economy and our way of life to do what, to allegedly keep the polar bears chilly 100 years from now.

Why are the Democrats so in favor of shutting down the American economy? Because they�ve become wedded to an entrenched group of radical environmentalists who see the United States as the greatest threat to the earth.

The Democrats want the United States to fall behind because they see it as the only real way to, as Barack Obama said, let the earth �heal� and �the oceans � recede.� The only way to save the planet is to humble America, apparently.

Bill Clinton even proclaimed in a primary stump speech that we �have to slow the American economy down in order to keep us all from allegedly bursting into flames. Never mind global warming actually ceased almost ten years ago the liberal environmental wacko mantra is still the same. Is this the sort of mindset that will put food on American families tables and ensure our children�s economic futures?

No wonder so many radicals and terrorists like Obama he prefers to bring our economy to it�s knees as long as he can slow American economic �growth� to �save the planet�. This is a recipe for economic disaster and widespread misery nothing more and nothing less.

Comment by Moses — July 18, 2008 @ 2:18 pm
I wonder how much money, hypocrite, Carbon Bigfoot, Al Gore, has made with his gig?

Comment by Chuck — July 18, 2008 @ 2:19 pm
All I can say is - if you believe that global warming is a hoax - how do you account for the overwhelming scientific consensus on this subject - that human-caused global warming is real and a serious threat. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
Moses, Great post!! You should run for office. I'll give you my vote, and heck, even campaign for you. (And great work on those Ten Commandment things too.)

Comment by Bill — July 18, 2008 @ 2:25 pm
How can anyone say that scientist overwhelmingly support Gore when you can't even estimate the number of scientist in this world…its an noun…not an occupation. I feel that a large number of people that claim to be a scientist are just claiming to be scientist. Push the bullsheetin' media out of the way…read the IPCC position and data…then read the APS critique of it…The IPCC has some problems with their math and methodology…they could be right…but if deceit is what they need to "fill in their gaps"
then all of their claims are in question.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:25 pm
We don't use solar panels and solar energy because.

1. The initial cost is not offset by the savings.
2. The Maintenance expenses are not offset by the savings.
3. The initial cost is roughly 4 to 5 times the cost of a conventional system alone because you have to have a back-up conventional system for when the sun doesn't shine.

We don't use Wind Power because
1. The initial cost is not offset by the savings.
2, The maintenance expenses are not offset by the savings
3 . the initial cost is never recovered from the savings a back-up conventional system is required for when the wind doesn't blow.

Get over it the money is not there to make the wind or solar power viable any time in the next 1000 years they are just not reliable enough.

So blow it out your Place where the sun Don't shine…….

Comment by Richard — July 18, 2008 @ 2:27 pm
You see, guys like Tom W. believe everything they read on wikipedia. Why don't you read some actual scientific papers, like the APS study referenced above? Or for something a little easier for you, with no reading required, I suggest The Great Global Warming Swindle, which every kid who's required to watch 'Inconvenient Truth' should see as a follow-up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSzItt6h-s

Comment by Bill — July 18, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
Evinronmental extremist such as Goreboy are quick to tell us what we need to give up. Yet, they are unwilling to make the sacrifices. We put up Wind Turbines because of these freaks. Now they want to say they don't look good they are destroying the natural landscape. We start to use plastic bags because of these freaks becasue we are killing trees. Now they say they are bad for the environment. We want to lower gas prices and are willing to look at every posible option. Yet, these extremist cry and say no drilling. They want us to suffer because we the normal hard working Americans aren't smart enough and don't deserve to live on this planet. Only the enlightened freak jobs like Goreboy are deserving of the gift of life. The only reason these freak jobs aren't living in a prison camp busting rocks and digging pointless ditches with shovels are becasue of us normal hard working tax paying Americans. They are all living for the day we are all part of the "collective" saying Welcome Comrade!

Comment by j — July 18, 2008 @ 2:32 pm
It's amazing how people such as Bob are drinking the kool aid. The scientific community also has a moron wing (I meant liberal wing). They also see a chance to have billions funneled into scientific research. It's like a used car dealer saying "in my opinion, buying a used car every year increases your life span by 20 years".

Disclaimer: to all liberals, the above was just an example. Buying a used car every year really won't increase your lifes span by 20 years. I bet some won't read the fine print and will start buying used cars.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 2:34 pm
to Richard…I live in the Texas Panhandle where the windmills are growing up like weeds. They have generated damn few jobs…I know of 1 job created. There are scads of them everywhere and our electric bills keep going up. Hail storms destroy what few solar arrays we have…I'd like to add that vector to your list.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:35 pm
Richard,
Give Al Gore and T. Boone Pickens enough money and they will prove you are right. But never let reality cloud the issue.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 2:35 pm
Al couldn't even win over his own (ha ha) homestate (?) unless you count DC as his homestate. He has no credibility except with the Michael Moores of the world. How sad that actual grown up adult people still believe his garbage.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 2:36 pm
j…I hope you mean the other Bob and not me. I'm the Bob that thinks AlGore is a snake oil salesman.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:37 pm
Why should we give Al Gore money? He has all that award money he got from the lefties of the world as well as the money he got from putting his deceptive book and movie out. T. Boone is an oil man, surely you don't believe him.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
Windmills coast to coast, replace those old roof antennas with windmills, great idea.
And dual purpose. Think of all those pigeon pooping, berry eating and worm mongrel birds we�ll wipeout in the process. Hmmm�

Comment by Eneri — July 18, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
Bob, Bill - you might want to check that Wikipedia page - it contains links to a very large number of the most prestigious scientific societies in the world that all support Al's position.

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
ecuse me, I meant Jack.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
By the way, the left is loading up with Al to convert his Tennessee home to be Green. He has to do something to gain credibility after getting his butt trounced for his hypocrisy. If you would like to assist Al with converting his home go to the Help Al Gore website or pass through the Belle Meade area of Nashville and you might see him standing on the corner with his cardboard sign.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
I meant the liberal Bob. Thinking of Al Gore as a snake oil salesman shows your tremendous intelligence and wisdom.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 2:41 pm
Tom- I just thought I should point out you misspelled a word in your posting. you said "links" when it should have been "Kinks". You find as many (if not more) that are opposed to this theory of Global Warming. You leftist need to plan your Global Warming Seminars better also. Last year you had that one snowed out.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 2:44 pm
Why doesn't Al fix the environment with all that money he got for inventing the internet? Surely he gets royalties from all of us using it, doesn't he?

I'd bet good money that there are liberals out there thinking "that's true, he probably did get a lot for inventing the internet".

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
Windmills coast to coast, replace those old roof antennas with windmills, great idea. Comment by Eneri

Just don't place any of those windmills near the Kennedy Hyannis compound or any other location that may impact a some liberal senator's view.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
"Visitors do not need specialized qualifications to contribute, since their primary role is to write…" That is from "WIKIPEDIA:about" …Wikipedia, like the news media, is not a reliable source of information.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:47 pm
Hey Real Tennessean, i noticed that you did not provide a link, oh sorry, kink, to your listing of prestigious scientific societies that oppose Al's position. Will that be forthcoming?

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
"Liberty has never come from government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of government. The history of liberty is a history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of limitations of government power, not the increase of it."
- Woodrow Wilson

Comment by j — July 18, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
Rick- funny but true. Another thing I always found if strange they call it the Kennedy Compound. Makes you think of a cult group like the Branch Davidians. Sorry to bring up the painful memories Janet Reno.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
Oh, and Bob, I am not suggesting that you believe what Wikipedia says. I'm suggesting that you investigate what the large number of scientific societies are saying about global warming.

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 2:50 pm
Tom W.- Didn't know you were interested since all you leftist are closed minded. I guess I could get the top research from Wikipedia like you or maybe I could look in the funny papers where all the Democrats get thier facts.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
Did Grand Vizier Al tell us what he would replace aviation fuel with?

Over time we can probably develop fuel cell tech for cars, but I doubt that we will be able to plug in our Stealth fighters overnight before going on a sortie at dawn.

Maybe the new refueling tanker plane contract that is now being bid can be changed from Boeing or Airbus to an RFP from a consortium headed by Duracell and Eveready.

Right. Way to go, Al. Dope.

Comment by Dan Z — July 18, 2008 @ 2:52 pm
Tom W- try this for starters but it only lists the numbers of climate scientists that reject Global Warming. You might not wat to open your mind up though because it could be life changing.

http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=462

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
So, Tennessean - where is your listing of scientific societies - or do you just prefer name-calling and feeble insults?

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
Tom W.- Go look in your textbook "Wikipedia" it has the lists (I checked for you). I also sent you a link that shows top scientist that are rejecting Global Warming theories.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
If you think that Al Gore is a source for good information, I guess you'd also think Wikipedia is. Why didn't they reference Mad Magazine I wonder?

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 2:58 pm
Oh no, you're suggesting i believe the WorldNetDaily instead of the American Society of Physicists? That is really weak, Tennessean.

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 2:59 pm
I want AlGore to explain why other planets, like Mars are warming up. Why is that ignored by the IPCC? …there are other anomalies also..a lot..but one is enough. No amount of information can prove a theory is perfectly right, but one question can prove it to be sufficiently wrong.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 2:59 pm
"Liberty has never come from government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of government. The history of liberty is a history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of limitations of government power, not the increase of it."
- Woodrow Wilson

Thank you J.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 3:00 pm
Tom W- Like I said "Closed minded". Because you see a site favorable to Christianity you reject it. You'd be more accepting if it was the Koran, right?

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
Richard,

My point on why are we not using solar is, by now, there is no reason why maintenance expenses shouldn't be down and cost savings should be higher. Why isn't everyone not asking why that is not taking place? Mass production is the key. I used computers as an example of how technology increases and mass production should be working for us now. Another point is that solar by itself is not the solution. Nothing by itself will be the solution. If solar panel prices would have dropped like the price of computers have, or the way flat panel TV screens are starting too, there is no reason for it not to be possible to supplement our power needs. Still, don't get me wrong. We still need every bit of our oil, and we need to start getting every bit of our oil now. I'm sorry, but it's just that you can not tell me that we can put billions and billions of bytes of information on a flash drive or a disk the size of a quarter, but there is no way we can make a reasonably prices solar panel. If we can't then instead of our government wasting billions on ear-marks and other useless politician pet projects that make their families millions of dollars they should subsidize the cost and installation to make it reasonable. The bottom line is we need to start putting pressure on all politicians to start doing what is right for the people not the lobyist trying to prevent it. And when I say people, I mean the poor and middle class. Of course the rich would benefit from the cheaper cost as well.

Comment by RegisteredDem — July 18, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
yeah read above if you have any questions

Comment by Jim - Chicago — July 18, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
Tennessean, you did a dangerous thing; you gave facts to a liberal! Liberals aren't trained in the use of facts. You may cause Tom W. to hurt himself. I hope you're happy!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
Tom W.- I put your "American Society of Physicists" into the search engine and it can't find it. Your like Al Gore now and using ficticious information. I thought you were being genuine but I see now your either being deceptive or you are being decieved. Go edit your wikipedia page.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
So, Tennessean - where is your listing of scientific societies - or do you just prefer name-calling and feeble insults? Comment by Tom W.

So Tom, where are the facts that prove global warming is occurring and that man made CO2 is the cause of global warming?

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
Gore is all about the power grab and masking his fascist, if not Marxist, view with this inane earth worship dodge to take over industries.

Comment by Bobby — July 18, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
That's it - I'm done - you have convinced me with your brilliant logic. Well done, Tennessean!

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
"Oh, and Bob, I am not suggesting that you believe what Wikipedia says. I'm suggesting that you investigate what the large number of scientific societies are saying about global warming.

Comment by Tom W."…what do think I've been saying???? I have looked at the argument from as many sides as I can. I did the math their way, It does not support their position! The IPCC is playing fast and loose with the facts. That is a fact, it doesn't mean they are wrong, it means they are playing fast and loose with the facts. I find that suspicious.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:06 pm
A couple of posters have suggested that the American Society of Physicists does not support Al Gore's global warming position. That is false - they agree with Al. See http://www.aps.org/

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
I saw Glenn Beck interviewing the former president of Shell Oil…he is forming a citizens actions group…check it out!
John D. Hofmeister
Founder and CEO
Citizens for Affordable Energy

1302 Waugh Drive No 708
Houston, TX
77019
US

Comment by Marian Kent — July 18, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
Human cause of global warming is not proved, in fact the evidence supports just the opposite.
Check out the 31,000 scientists in Project Petition who think the evidence supports natural causes.
The democrats have been the biggest bottleneck to energy production. I really believe they do not want what is best for the American people. It is only recently that their folly all these years has finally brought enough pain to our society that people see the truth and are finally demanding that something be done. Drill Now!

Comment by Sam P — July 18, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
Tom W.
The word consensus means collective OPINION. How can you have consensus and science together? The two words contridict each other. Science is based on fact not opinion, and not all scientists agree on man-made global warning and Al Gore is no scientist.

Comment by Buzz — July 18, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
Ahhh, here you are… I've often wondered where the bottom 28 percent of Americans who still support the failed policies of George Bush hang out. You've had a pretty good run. Six years or so you've had everything pretty much your own way and have nothing to show for it except failed fiscal, domestic and foreign policies. I am hard pressed to find anything that has worked for the middle class, but that never was the point, was it?.

Republicans have once again proven that they can get elected, but their aversion to government makes it impossible to govern. And the hopes were so high… you were going to show all of us what you can do. You were going to balance the budget while cutting our taxes. Then you decided to fight two wars while America shops and not pay for it. Iraqi oil was to fund it all. And the benefit of our six week war would be rock bottom oil prices to fund our bubbling economy. Finally, you reigned in government regulators to unleash the power of corporate America. You must be so proud right now.

I know some of you have done very well for yourselves since 2001. Probably no one on this list, but the Republicans who own 95 percent of the means of production in this country. The rest of you just shuffle to the polls every four years and cast a vote that ensures you will never be able to afford a college education for your children.

But now you are in your death throws… clinging to the last remnants of power before you are swept out in the Obama tide. As usual, the collective Republican whining is deafening, attempting once more to blame the liberals. Well, you have no one to blame but yourselves, so take a good look in the mirror and ask how you let things go so wrong.

Let me help. Perhaps government does have a roll to play in economic health. Maybe diplomacy works if you give it a shot. Is it possible that climate change is not a liberal plot to enslave the rich? Is is possible that universal health care is more important than taking care of your insurance buddies?

And what about oil prices|? We could go drill off the coast of Florida or in ANWAR, but it delivers us nothing for 20 years except to make righty feel all warm and fuzzy. And it doesn't solve our other energy and climate problems. So the net result is a waste of time and resources that will be better spent on alternative energy.

We have a crystal clear choice this fall… either we continue to follow the invisible hand to only god knows where, or we decide to enact sensible energy and regulatory policies that provides us a path to energy independence.

Comment by E — July 18, 2008 @ 3:10 pm
The UN also plays fast and loose with AIDs stats..The IPCC is of the UN. Honesty is not a UN asset.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:11 pm
Why are we arguing over this? Let's all just move to Rwanda, and life will be great!

Comment by bill — July 18, 2008 @ 3:12 pm
People who say such things do not realize how deep and how wide carbon based fuels are working in our infrastructure. Al Gore has a lot of hypotheticals he peddles as facts.

Comment by shearwater — July 18, 2008 @ 3:13 pm
Al's Idling Ride [Iain Murray]

Americans for Prosperity's Ed Frank also has some reporting from Al Gore's speech today . . .

Gore's Hypocrisy Exposed in New Video: His Entourage's Lincoln Town Car Outside Global Warming Speech Idles w/ AC Cranking for 20 Minutes!

We're back from Al Gore's big global warming speech, and boy did we have a great time! We had a dedicated band of taxpayer advocates out in force, pointing out the high economic cost of global warming alarmism . . . .

Of course, we saw plenty of hypocrisy � especially the fact that Gore didn't ride his bike or take public transporation to the event. He didn't even take his Prius! Instead, he brought a fleet of two Lincoln Town Cars and a Chevy Suburban SUV! Even worse, the driver of the Town Car that eventually whisked away Gore's wife and daughter left the engine idling and the AC cranking for 20 minutes before they finally left!

Check it out in our video from the scene. . . .
http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/

Comment by j — July 18, 2008 @ 3:13 pm
So, Tennessean - where is your listing of scientific societies - or do you just prefer name-calling and feeble insults? Comment by Tom W.

So Tom, where are the facts that prove global warming is occurring and that man made CO2 is the cause of global warming?

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
Comment by E � July 18, 2008 @ 3:10 pm—Welcome Comrade!

Comment by j — July 18, 2008 @ 3:15 pm
Looks as if Tom W. is going to take his purse and leave. I really find it hard to believe that liberals can so quiclky and completely buy into a lie but they'll fight "tooth and nail" to run from the truth. You would think we could understand the lower animals better than that!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 3:15 pm
From http://globalwarmingcause.wordpress.com...

"The only temperature data we can trust are satellite measurements, and they only go back to 1979. They show no warming in the southern hemisphere, and the warming trend in the northern hemisphere appears to have waned since 2001."

Dr. David Evans

Comment by Robert Butterworth — July 18, 2008 @ 3:16 pm
Thanks Tom, I checked the link and realize you had just gotten the name wrong, it's American Physical Society. I must say I was shocked to see the face of Rep. Rosa DeLaura on the front page. That's a scarey site for anyone.
I'll tell you what I tell the Jehova Wintesses when they come to my door. "I'll take your information and read it, if you will take mine". They also are closed minded and won't do it. I fill like thinking people should feel safe to read/entertain other thoughts and decdie for themselves what is accurate. I have serious doubts about "Manmade Global Warming". I guess we'll know in 10 years.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 3:16 pm
Too bad that Al "the Hack" Gore and T. Boone "Slim" Pickens couldn't get an advance on the energy they sold their souls for to start this Global Warming garbage. I just can't believe the amount of gullable morons in this world that belives this stuff. BTW, I have several pink elephants I can sell you!

Comment by Mark — July 18, 2008 @ 3:18 pm
A Sheep drinking kool aid because I believe we can create new sources of energy? Wow okay so people who didn't believe in horseless carriages or industrial plants, or that computers could fit in the palm of your hands were all "drinking the kool aid"?

Your lack of imagination is what makes you ignorant sad and hopeless. What ever happened to the American initiative? The belief that we can do anything we put our minds to? Did you sell your soul for your SUV with the DVD players in the back so you could stop interacting with your screaming brats?

No Gore is not perfect, any more that JFK, Nixon, Churchill, FDR or any man of power, because um they are men…but at least he is trying to do something, to stimulate the discussion. But its so much easier to rail on him for being rich and having a big house or a private jet. Petty and sad.

The only other solution is the "I'm hooked on cocaine" problem and the only solution is to get more cocaine!!! That makes sense, if you are a ADDICT!

If we could only stop fighting for 10 minutes and have an honest, intellectual discussion on how to work together to get this country not only free from dependence on foreign oil but to PRODUCE the source of energy that growing countries like China and India will need to get from somewhere we can put ourselves back on top again man.

But if you would prefer to slander me and call me crazy because that fits into your comfort zone, go right ahead.

But mark my words WE CAN NOT CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH WE ARE ON, BECAUSE IT ONLY LEADS TO DESTRUCTION.

Come on America, pull your head out of your ass . You've been sold a bill of goods and someday the bill is gonna come due.

Comment by Spencer — July 18, 2008 @ 3:18 pm
No Gore is not perfect, any more that JFK, Nixon, Churchill, FDR or any man of power, because um they are men Comment by Spencer

Spencer, please don't use Al Gore's name in a sentence with real men. It diminishes them.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 3:23 pm
We do not care that Gore has a huge mansion and a private jet. What we care about is how he is going all over the world telling us how we should sacrifice and do without to conserve while obviously does not. That is what makes him a hypocrit!

Comment by Buzz — July 18, 2008 @ 3:26 pm
It is the APS, not ASP. The American Physical Society, as a body supports the IPCC. The membership, though, is not in agreemnt on this support. A large number in that organization feel that the IPCC has failed to make its case. That is why the APS has allowed its members to criticise the IPCC, the criticisms are valid and should be addressed. They ,the IPCC,needs to explain why the math DOES NOT WORK!!!

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:26 pm
…and why other planets in the solar system are heating up also…..

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
Ok Republicans and conservatives alike. I will communicate to you in FEAR SPEAK (the language of your group)
Forget about Global Warming. Do you want to continue to buy your energy from people who want to destroy you?
Let's keep it local. Which means, our energy will come from a several different sources found here in the UNITED STATES. This includes: Wind, Geothermal, Solar, Natural Gas and Biofuels.

Comment by Governor — July 18, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
I would love nothing more than to continue this discussion of what constitutes a scientific consensus and the nature of the scientific method. However, if I don't complete my C++ software coding today, I will be looking for a new job. Adios and I enjoyed the discussion.

Comment by Tom W. — July 18, 2008 @ 3:29 pm
People really have their priorities out of whack. The amount hot air emitted by the "know it alls" is troubling. Heres the deal:

1) Global Warming is neither here nor there. Regardless, we need to conserve and protect the earth, its our only planet, remember?

2) Oil is finite. You can't drill our way out ofenergy issues.

Americans are so immature about everything, and the wisdom to see past the distracting issues.

Comment by chris o — July 18, 2008 @ 3:32 pm
all you losers voted for G. Bush for president. He screwed everthing up and now you get a black president. haha

Comment by Tina — July 18, 2008 @ 3:32 pm
*and they LACK the wisdom to see past the distracting issues.

Comment by chris o — July 18, 2008 @ 3:33 pm
Governor- I will speak to you in Fool Speak (the language of your group).
Oil companies-bad, heinz ketchup-good;
Republican millionaires-bad, democrat millionaires-good;
tax the rich-unless they are democrats;
seperation of church and state-unless it is Islam
Heterosexual-bad, homosexual-good;
Free speech is good unless it is Talk Radio or Christian TV or any other conservative means; George Bush blew up the Twin Towers;
Only Obama can save us, come Lord Obama!

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 3:35 pm
C++ I bet you stick yo' nose in te are when Vbasic hicks strut by…

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:35 pm
Tina, he is half white!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 3:35 pm
Also, Governor- every Republican I know is calling for using all these alternatives. it is the Dems that refuse to use ALL of them. They want to pick and choose. Use all now and begin to change over the years. We can do it.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 3:36 pm
C++ I bet you stick yo' nose in the air when Vbasic hicks strut by�

Comment by Bob � July 18, 2008 @ 3:35 pm …….o my, spelling can use spell check.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:36 pm
Hes not saying do without! Did you even read the transcript? What he is trying to say if you could for one minute get over your hang up with the fact that he has made a very good living for himself as a speaker, is that WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. We CAN do something. Oil is not going to be around for ever, it's going to dry up. Just use your imagination. Yes right now solar and wind is expensive, just like computer were 15 years ago, and cell phones you get the point. We need to get off the global warming issue because it masks the bigger problem. Our economy is in shambles, and only going to get worse. We need to be the one to initiate and create a new source of energy that over time (say I dont know like TEN YEARS) will be cheap and renewable and something we can provide to other growing countries so that we are the ones in the drivers seats again.

I think that is something that ALL Americans liberal and conservative can agree is in all our best interests.

It's not going to be easy, but didn't they teach us that any thing worth while isnt easy. Discovering a new nation, traversing across the west, developing the industrial revolution, fighting two world wars and stooping tyranny, none of those were easy, but we did them. And it is possible to do this if we could just stop fighting over the bullshit and see the forest through the trees people.

Comment by Spencer — July 18, 2008 @ 3:37 pm
Americans are so immature about everything, and the wisdom to see past the distracting issues.
Comment by chris o

Chris, thank God for people like you. I really believe that only you and Al Gore remain as the last two mature Americans standing. Oooops, wait you sound a little european, I guess that only leaves Al.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 3:37 pm
THE IPCC'S MATH DOES NOT COMPUTE!

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
AND THAT IS A REAL ISSUE THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED. ITS NOT POLITICAL.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:39 pm
s sssPretty obvious from this thread that the low IQ crowd votes Republican. I guess you all think air pollution is a good thing then, since that is what we are talking about here. Whether the climate warms or cools with increasing amounts of CO2 (and both may occur), we are poisoning the air we breathe. That is an incontrovertible fact - it isn't like there are two valid "opinions" on this. Scientists have been taking high altitude measurements of CO2 for over 50 years and it is increasing. Period. Full stop.

I could also point out as Christians, you have an obligation to care for God's creation, but it is pretty obvious that you aren'ts

Comment by The Conservative Deflator — July 18, 2008 @ 3:41 pm
I don't understand how you say the math does not add up. The observations fit nicely within the standard error of the models. Also for the others out there who say that 30,000 scientist said they don't agree with GW because of this so called "list", that list has been discredited. The "scientists" who signed it could not be located, others are duplicate names and the rest are not even scientist!

Comment by hisnamewas — July 18, 2008 @ 3:41 pm
People it's time to get real. Stuff like this isn't just a difference of opinion. The liberals ARE the enemy. They are destroying this country from within, slowly. The communists said they could take over the United States without ever firing a shot. This is exactly how they intended to go about it.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 3:41 pm
Conservative Deflator- Is CO2 a bad thing for plants? I thought you scientists understood that plants need CO2? Our trees and plants ought to be thankful to us for CO2 which makes me a good steward of the earth. Thanks.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 3:43 pm
I think that is something that ALL Americans liberal and conservative can agree is in all our best interests. Comment by Spencer

Spenser,
Drill for oil in ANWR and in CONUS and off the continental shelf, build refineries, build nuclear reactors, allow oil shale mining, drill for natural gas. Can we agree on that? Then ……..

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 3:44 pm
hey al, how many carbon credits do you need to continue to fly in your private jet and live in your mansion? hold on, i'll print you up a couple of thousand…while i'm at it, i'll print myself up some too…hahahaha

what a scam!

Comment by rusty nail — July 18, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
Is Al Bore (woooops, that was a type - honest)Gore a complete and total pompous buffoon or what.

Comment by The Hudsonian — July 18, 2008 @ 3:46 pm
Wind mills are UGLY and the number of them needed would be HUGE. It would come to pass that the mid-west states would be filled with them because the Eastern states wouldn't be suited or just plain don't want them.
The first 1000 of them should be in Ted Kennedy's, Gore's, and front yard.

Comment by DB — July 18, 2008 @ 3:46 pm
Rick- I agree with you and then we can be exploring these other alternatives (wind mills, etc….) You have found common ground for sure. How about it Spenser?

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 3:46 pm
Facts or politics, what's the issue?

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
Have a great weekend everyone. I have to go and burn some carbon.

Comment by A Real Tennessean — July 18, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
A Sheep drinking kool aid because I believe we can create new sources of energy? Wow okay so people who didn't believe in horseless carriages or industrial plants, or that computers could fit in the palm of your hands were all "drinking the kool aid"?

Your lack of imagination is what makes you ignorant sad and hopeless. What ever happened to the American initiative? The belief that we can do anything we put our minds to? Did you sell your soul for your SUV with the DVD players in the back so you could stop interacting with your screaming brats?

–There is a difference between being dictated to and freely choosing. Markets showed a desire for SUV's and DVD's. If gas prices stay high they will show a desire for the prius' of the world and the production of more. What we do not want is to HAVE HYSTERIA jammed down our throats by politicians who want to do nothing except take away freedom and tax more.

Comment by j — July 18, 2008 @ 3:48 pm
Al Gore flunked outiof Law School and ended up in Divinity School, he now is talking miracles not science cures or solutions. Why listen to a dummy?

Comment by agmines — July 18, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
Hey Tennessean burn some for me.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 3:50 pm
Question: What did this windbag do during the 8 years he was in the Whitehouse? PATHETIC

Comment by Domino — July 18, 2008 @ 3:50 pm
We can drill our way to a better future, we have enough oil off our coasts, in Alaska, in North Dakota and with oil shale to last hundreds of years. Yes we can! Yes we can and will develop alternate fuels in time. We need to rely on oil until that day comes. What don't you understand about that. We can't just stop living until we have the means to move people and goods with new technology. Even France get over 80% of their electricity from nuclear power and recycle their spent fuel efficiently. Everyone wants to treat the planet like it has to last forever but we can't just stop our lives like some of they nuts want us to do. We can and will overcome IN TIME!We have the oil to be totally free of every country we buy oil from. Why should we keep giving away all our country's wealth just to satisfy the lib dems. ( I know redistribution of wealth, one of their main programs.)
We are Americans and we can do it if we quit letting the lame brain politicians screw us .

Comment by navy65 — July 18, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
Yes, we can, but thats just the beginning, it can not end there, and we have to do it correctly and cautiously and at the same time put some real money behind alternative sources, ie wind, solar. Think about the energy we could produce if we could get giant turbines on the ocean floor using the gulf stream, it would dwarf any hydro electric damm. Im not a scientist and I do not pretend to have answers but we need to stop being distracted by the bullshit and look at what we NEED to do to save not the planet but our country, our economy, our way of life. But we just might find in the event of doing that we can "save" the planet, what ever that means.

Somewhere in the middle here….

Comment by Spencer — July 18, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
The Conservative Deflator is obviously one of the mindless liberals that were told that liberals were smart. I hate to burst your bubble but, sadly, you were misled. You know, when I see someone with tattoos all over their bodies, 50+ piercings, their tongue split, there is never a question that they are a liberal, I'd bet my house on it. When I see a hard working, decent farmer working 16 hours every day, the overwhelming odds are that he's a conservative. Just because you have a website and you can convince yourself of things, doesn't mean you're correct on anything.
You did, however, show a glimpse of your superior intelligence when you used the phrase "you aren'ts". Good job.
Note to yourself: when you want to convince people that you're smart, spell the words correctly!!!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 3:52 pm
liberal fools like al gore, pelosi, reid, boxer and the rest of 'em don't seem to understand that when we tell them to 'put it where the Sun don't shine' and 'you are full of hot air'. are descriptive phrases, not actual sources of constant energy. They think this stuff is 24/7/365 and can fix the USA. Somebody should tell them that hydro-electric, coal fired, natural gas fired and nuclear are the most efficient and will always provide the most for the least. Wind and solar will never be able to provide much more than 10% of the total daily requirement. Pathetic liberals just can't understand reality.

Comment by LKF — July 18, 2008 @ 3:52 pm
Question: What did this windbag do during the 8 years he was in the Whitehouse? PATHETIC

Comment by Domino

HOW DARE YOU ASK SUCH A QUESTION!

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 3:52 pm
"I don't understand how you say the math does not add up. The observations fit nicely within the standard error of the models. "

Comment by hisnamewas

…..The APS dissenters say it does not fit within the standard error, that is their issue. Now the IPCC needs to explain why they need to fudge the facts to get the model to work. It is a factual argument, not a political argument. The group from the APS have found errors in the IPCC reports…this needs to be addressed, not dismissed or ridiculed. Fraud?…probably not, sloppy science, could be…we need to find out. It could mean the difference of …trillions of dollars…billions of lives.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
This is why you can't win with environmetal extremism. Soon, they will say we are using too much energy from the sun and it iwll burn out!
Wind Power Whips Through Texas [Drew Thornley]

Who knew a �free� source of energy could be so expensive?

The Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) recently estimated that billions of dollars in investment will be needed to transmit wind-generated electricity from the areas of Texas most suitable for wind generation � West Texas and the Panhandle � to the areas of the state that need energy the most � the I-35 corridor and the upper Gulf Coast. These costs will be borne by Texas ratepayers. How did this happen?

Subsidies, incentives, and renewable energy mandates have paved the way for Texas� wind-energy boom. Today, Texas leads the nation in installed wind-power capacity, adding 1,708 megawatts (MW) in 2007, bringing its total to 4,446 MW by the end the year. California is a distant second, with 63 MW added in 2007 and a total of 2,439 MW by year�s end.

According to the Energy Information Administration, wind�s percentage of total U.S. net generation was 0.44 percent in 2005, 0.65 percent in 2006, and 0.77 percent in 2007; from 1993 to 2007, wind�s average percentage of total net generation was 0.25 percent. In Texas, wind accounted for 2 percent of total generation in 2007.

Robust wind power expansion is expected, as Texas� Senate Bill 20 (2005) mandated 5,880 MW of renewable energy by 2015 and set a 10,000-MW target for 2025. To this end, $700 million went into new wind Texas farms in January, thanks in part to government subsidies.

In addition to generous federal assistance � namely a 2 cents/kWh production tax credit and five-year, double-declining balance accelerated depreciation for wind-generating equipment � the state of Texas entices wind developers with a franchise tax exemption to manufacturers, sellers, or installers of wind devices; a corporate deduction from the state�s franchise tax for renewable energy sources; and a 100-percent property tax exemption on the appraised value of an on-site wind power generating device. But even with these federal and state subsidies, electricity from wind is more expensive per kilowatt-hour than that generated by fossil fuels.

ERCOT�s estimates for transmitting West Texas wind energy, under four different scenarios, range from $3.78 billion to $6.28 billion. ERCOT estimated costs by using as-the-crow-flies distances for transmission cables. Thus, transmission costs were estimated using a best-case-scenario approach and, as such, should be considered the absolute (and unlikely) minimums. Add to this ERCOT�s estimates of $410 million to $1.03 billion for connecting wind generation to the new collection substations.

Additionally, while ERCOT�s transmission-cost estimates include the costs of building transmission stations, they do not include right-of-way costs, which will be passed through to consumers, in the form of higher electric bills.

Wind energy proponents extol wind as free, safe, and clean, but these characterizations miss the point. Energy users expect reliability, and challenges dot the path from wind to electric grid to energy consumer.

#ad#For wind turbines to produce power, the wind must blow. Because the wind does not blow constantly, wind turbines produce a fraction of their potential generating capacities. Furthermore, winds blows the least during the summer months when electricity is needed the most. ERCOT relies on just 8.7 percent of wind power�s capacity when determining available power during peak summer hours. Also, due to wind�s intermittency, those relying on wind farms must rely on conventional power sources to back up their supply.

Wind�s variability and its lack of correlation with peak demand highlight a major challenge for wind energy: Presently, there is no adequate storage system for wind-generated electricity � though progress is being made on updating older technologies, and on refining newer ones. Until commercially viable storage is a reality, wind energy will remain unreliable.

Wind energy also comes with legitimate environmental concerns. Sterling Burnett, Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, writes, �Bringing a conventional power plant on line to supply power is not as simple as turning on a switch; thus most of the fossil fuel power stations required to supplement wind turbines are not �redundant,� but must run continuously, even if at reduced levels. When combined with the CO2 emitted and pollutants released in the manufacture and maintenance of wind towers and their associated infrastructure, substituting wind power for fossil fuels does little to reduce air pollution.�

Wind farms also require vast tracts of land, disrupting farming acreage and animal habitats; and, as Sterling Burnett has pointed out, turbine blades kill thousands of birds each year, including protected species.

ERCOT estimates Texas� electricity demand will rise 20 percent by 2015 and 43 percent by 2025. Wind alone cannot supply that. Rather, wind should be part of a diversified portfolio of energy resources, anchored by the traditional energy sources � like fossil fuels, which are burning cleaner than ever before � that have the best chance at meeting Texas� burgeoning energy needs. Even in Texas, the nation�s leader in wind energy, wind tinkers at the edges of meeting our energy needs. Letting wind find and fulfill its reasonable supply potential � as opposed to subsidizing and overfilling the wind-energy egg basket � is the prudent strategy for finding the proper role for wind energy.

Comment by j — July 18, 2008 @ 3:59 pm
We are ridiculous for continuing to destroy our enviroment that God has giving us. The global warming hoax theory is a "festival of ignorance." Let's get this done.

Comment by John — July 18, 2008 @ 4:02 pm
Actually I'm in favor of global warming, I don't like cold weather. And I hope it kills all the crickets, I can't stand those chirpy, crickety thangs! But that's personal, not political or scientific.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 4:02 pm
It is a festival of ignorance. I can't believe so many have fallen for the global warming hoax.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 4:04 pm
Bob,
Thank you for your insiteful comment. I share your hatred for crickets. I don't mind them as a creature of God, but the "chirpy, crickety thang" it is a little difficult to take over time.

Comment by Rick — July 18, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
Hard to believe that my better than 20/20 vision would allow me to see an oil rig 100 miles off of the coast.
Working in Los Angeles 6 months ago it took us an hour to travel the 12 miles to and from our site. Thats Pelosi's state, a total mess. A place where 1 out 4 graduate from High school. Prisons that you can get married in, and now same sex marriages.
California "the land of fruits and nuts"
If Pelosi and the rest get there way our country will end up like California.

Comment by Clark — July 18, 2008 @ 4:07 pm
Spencer, as I said earlier, you are so naive!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 4:07 pm
"Anyone who voted twice for George Bush is complete looser and should be banned from voting for life."

And while we're removing THAT perticular right from people you don't agree with, George, let's get rid of that pesky "Bill of Rights" thing while we're at it. Jerk.

Comment by Eric — July 18, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
Clark, it's not just Pelosi, if the liberals have their way the whole country will end up like California

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
By the way, as in politics, science is rife with fraud also…Encarta has several excellent articles about scientific fraud. It seems as though many in the scientific community will jump on a bandwagon before examining the details. I think some of the APS members have gotten over the "celebrity aspect of global warming. Again I as…Why is Mars and other planets warming?

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
Bob which models are you talking about. Could you send me a link to the model? Everyone of the current models I have seen fall nicely within the range of standard error.

Comment by hisnamewas — July 18, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
Mars and the other planets are warming because of a cycle the sun is going through. The earth is warming because of SUV's. There Bob, you have it right out of the liberal playbook, page 75.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
Yes Jack, and I am working so hard every day to be more like you, so worldly and experienced, so knowledgeable in the way that things don't work.

Again you prove my point by reducing yourself to name calling and denigrating those who don't share your your Weltanschauung. Way to go Jack!

Comment by Spencer — July 18, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
Bob i already sent you the nature article on why Mars is warming but ill send it again since you did not catch it:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v446/n7136/abs/nature05718.html

Comment by hisnamewas — July 18, 2008 @ 4:15 pm
There can be no discussion of the facts until the polit-egos Shut Duh Fug Up! I gotta go to work, by!

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 4:15 pm
1.21 Jiggawatts!!!!!!!!

Comment by Doc Brown — July 18, 2008 @ 4:17 pm
starting point….http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/monckton.cfm

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 4:17 pm
Good one Doc!!!

Comment by Spencer — July 18, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
"The following article has not undergone any scientific peer review. Its conclusions are in disagreement with the overwhelming opinion of the world scientific community. The Council of the American Physical Society disagrees with this article's conclusions." hmmm i like how it starts

Comment by hisnamewas — July 18, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
Mars and Earth are not the only planets warming…I'm late for work.

Comment by Bob — July 18, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
No Spencer, you earned those insults. You fall for a pack of lies from a snake oil salesman, then expect us to reach a compromise position. If someone came to you believing the world was square, would you be willing to reach a compromise? Imagine how you would feel about someone trying to convince you that the sky only extended 20 feet up, then stopped. That's how we view you.

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
Uranus is cooling:

http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~layoung/eprint/ur149/Young2001Uranus.pdf

Comment by hisnamewas — July 18, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
So Jack, let me get this right, THERE IS an unlimted supply of oil in this world? Or is it limited and could one day dry up? If that is tantamount to making the claim that the world is flat or the sky is only 20 feet up I guess I am naive and proudly so then Jack. If you read carefully what I said, you would see I am not stating that global warming is the problem Jack, but that the supply of energy we depend on is running out and we need to use our minds, our god given wisdom and abilities to think out side the box and come up with an alternative Jack.

But your right, your way is easier, just insult people, call them all fools and liars and come up with no real solutions of your own. Just bury your head in the sand, wrap your self in the flag and everything will work itself out.

And I am naive!!!

Comment by Spencer — July 18, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
Jack Waldrop big on insults, short on facts.

Comment by RM — July 18, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
Yes Spencer you are naive. You can't read either! Are you making up stuff to argue about? Read above, I didn't say most of the stuff you attribute to me. Go argue with yourself somewhere else!

Comment by Jack Waldrop — July 18, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
Conclusion

Even if temperature had risen above natural variability, the recent solar Grand Maximum may have been chiefly responsible. Even if the sun were not chiefly to blame for the past half-century�s warming, the IPCC has not demonstrated that, since CO2 occupies only one-ten-thousandth part more of the atmosphere that it did in 1750, it has contributed more than a small fraction of the warming. Even if carbon dioxide were chiefly responsible for the warming that ceased in 1998 and may not resume until 2015, the distinctive, projected fingerprint of anthropogenic �greenhouse-gas� warming is entirely absent from the observed record. Even if the fingerprint were present, computer models are long proven to be inherently incapable of providing projections of the future state of the climate that are sound enough for policymaking. Even if per impossibilethe models could ever become reliable, the present paper demonstrates that it is not at all likely that the world will warm as much as the IPCC imagines. Even if the world were to warm that much, the overwhelming majority of the scientific, peer-reviewed literature does not predict that catastrophe would ensue. Even if catastrophe might ensue, even the most drastic proposals to mitigate future climate change by reducing emissions of carbon dioxide would make very little difference to the climate. Even if mitigation were likely to be effective, it would do more harm than good: already millions face starvation as the dash for biofuels takes agricultural land out of essential food production: a warning that taking precautions, �just in case�, can do untold harm unless there is a sound, scientific basis for them. Finally, even if mitigation might do more good than harm, adaptation as (and if) necessary would be far more cost-effective and less likely to be harmful.

In short, we must get the science right, or we shall get the policy wrong. If the concluding equation in this analysis (Eqn. 30) is correct, the IPCC�s estimates of climate sensitivity must have been very much exaggerated. There may, therefore, be a good reason why, contrary to the projections of the models on which the IPCC relies, temperatures have not risen for a decade and have been falling since the phase-transition in global temperature trends that occurred in late 2001. Perhaps real-world climate sensitivity is very much below the IPCC�s estimates. Perhaps, therefore, there is no �climate crisis� at all. At present, then, in policy terms there is no case for doing anything. The correct policy approach to a non-problem is to have the courage to do nothing.

Comment by webber — July 18, 2008 @ 4:32 pm
Jack
I said Pelosi and the rest, I should have been more clear.

Read my other blogs

Comment by Clark — July 18, 2008 @ 4:32 pm
Ah very good, if ignorance doesn't work, submit to fear, call me a homo. That will prove your point beyond a shadow of a doubt. Hypocrites like you make

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